
Ok guys. I’m finally putting this up for crit. I’ve been reluctant to, but here goes. What do you think?
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Ok guys. I’m finally putting this up for crit. I’ve been reluctant to, but here goes. What do you think?
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I've liked it since you first posted a sample of it and I hope you find time to finish it one day.
I can see you had some fun with alternates? I really like the \A\ in April (is that a trial for a smallcaps A?). And the Rswash_A ligature, in which I love little loop.
The horizontal connection in the \K\ stands out to me, although I see you have the same line in the \R\. IMHO, I think it's a bit too modern for this typeface. It might work in smaller sizes though.
Awesome! That's seriously elegant. It already looks pretty refined to me, but I'd like to share some ideas. Cool to see some Dutch words in there ;-)
The style of w and W, might be a personal or historical thing, but it tends to become a little dark (even in such a light typeface) and distracting. I'm not saying you should change it, but at least try a different structure if you haven't already tried that.
The style of k and K looks a bit out of place to me and I'd make one of the diagonals thicker.
Perhaps s and S should have one or two terminals thickened as in the c?
The g looks a bit too geometrical to me. It seems to lack part of the elegance. Definitely stick with a double storey g though!
I think your M needs rethinking. I prefer the middle part to almost reach the baseline and the side parts to be more vertical.
The proportions of your capitals are much different from the usual humanistic proportions. I'm not sure it looks 'wrong', but I'd like to see what it looks like with more humanistic proportions, e.g. much wider D, H, N, U, T, narrower K, wider E and F.
Keep going! I'm looking forward to updates on this one!
I’m absolutely ready to play with the shapes here, but I think the rough proportions are good. It started out as an uppercase alphabet only, and the first iteration had more typical proportions. I landed on this because, 1: it’s most definitely a display face and should be eccentric 2: The narrow caps are accentuating the naïve geometry in letters like O/C/G. I intended the contrast to be larger than usual.
Perhaps you could redesign your regular R based on the alternate R. Just a thought ;-)
I thought about commenting on that as well, but it will change the entire style of the face. As it currently is, it's kind of modern, but it will become a lot more retro if frode desides to change that R (and possibly K).
Also, I don't mind the different widths of different characters, as I understand their historical origins. Evening them out will result in a more 'modern' look.
I've always liked the 'double v' take on the \w\. Maybe try to widen it a bit to allow the character to be a bit lighter.
Wow, this is deliciously beautiful Frode. Congratulations on such a graceful design. I like the way you've mixed wide and narrow proportions.
To me the M sticks out, it's rather narrow — I think I'd try bringing the centre vertex to the baseline but keep all the angles the same. The W may look a bit narrow too.
Head of ampersand seems to be nodding to the right.
Q: longer crossbar?
K/k: try a branched structure?
Numerals are splendid.
£: I think I'd go for a slanted stem in the roman, for this style of typeface, more elegant, the current one looks a little stiff.
Italic /ae/ may be too much like /oe/?
Wonderful. Are you thinking about any other weights?
I like it, very elegant.
Just a thought: perhaps try a single story a for the roman? Now it's troubling me a bit that italics and roman don't match that well, especially because of the large bowls on the a and g. I prefer the single story a (but without the hook, perhaps a little less round?) as it brings it a bit closer to futura elegance rather than didot elegance. The double story a is a bit too 'nice' and tame, IMHO.
Please, don’t take this personally, but I I think you should avoid getting too close to SangBleu.
Hi Frank! Don’t worry, I’m not! I actually just got a (somewhat angry) mail from them. What do you guys think about that? The selection of ultralight stressed sans serifs is rather slim, and I wasn’t aware of Sangbleu Sans until very late in the process. If this was a regular weight grotesque or humanist I don’t think anyone would worry about being to close to something else. None of my shapes were inspired by Sangbleu — in fact this started out as more of a "fixing Fashion Thin" thing. I drew inspiration from Futura (rythm) and Neutraface (lowercase), Optima and Peignot (stress) and a bunch of concepts I’ve been wanting to explore that people said you shouldn’t, particulary retaining the geometry in the cursive.
Hope the US is treating you well, btw!
a bunch of concepts I’ve been wanting to explore that people said you shouldn’t, particulary retaining the geometry in the cursive http://typophile.com/node/74092
Which you egregiously achieved. But have you though or tried to rotate the stress’ axis?
… have you though or tried to rotate the stress’ axis?
Yes, some of the letters breaks free from the typical stress.
What is the resolution of the grid?
A little unorthodox, but I needed more precision: 3000 upm
To me the only similarity to Sang Bleu is the weight.
Thanks for the support.
I’m really happy for any comments on the shapes, well anything really. I’ll try my hands at some of the suggestions above tomorrow. Keep in mind this is a poster size typeface.
I wonder if he meant as a way to distinguish the italic from the roman (in the absence of distinct geometry).
How often do you need to emphasize an uppercase word in a headline?
That’s what I meant :-)
And italics could be used for more than emphasis, especially in headlines. For example, something like this:


It's really nice! Reminds me a bit of Sang Bleu.
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