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>>> Type ID Pop Quiz V2.3 - Intermediate Level

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This is how it works:

  • A complete glyph is published in the Type ID Pop Quiz.
  • Try to identify the typeface. To win, you need to name both the typeface and the weight.
  • Show off your knowledge by casually mentioning additional trivia, like who designed it, when and by whom was it (first) published, and other cool stuff to impress your fellow Typophiles with.
  • The winner produces a new challenge -- a complete glyph, black on white background, presented in a 288 x 288 pixel square, including a R204G000B00 1 pixel border.
  • The person who posts a challenge can't win the next game.

In case of any disputes, I will act as judge, jury and avenging angel of wrath.

If you think this is a little too difficult, maybe try the Entry Level Type ID Pop Quiz first. Too easy? Go to the Expert Level Type ID Pop Quiz.

Good luck everyone, and have fun. ;^)

With respectful thanks to the originator of this utterly useless but highly entertaining waste of time, the often imitated but never duplicated Cheshire Dave.

Hooray! Alright, here we go again. Guess this one’s way easier …

Linotype's Stempel Schneidler Black's question mark?

Wow. I’d make that an exclamation mark.

That’s right, DeathWolf!
It looks like from some wacky comic script, so out of place in this distinguished Venetian … Take over!

Well let's rock! Show those glyhps.

Well, I like this Quiz, it would be a pity if it dies in quietness.
(Is that in correct English?)

I think the phrase you're looking for is "dies a quiet death," and I agree that it needs to be revived.

Well, DeathWolf changed his name & disappeared …
I’m looking forward to new glyphs, too. As it was my challenge he answered before, I guess it’s okay to post another one, in order to keep the thread alive. Paul-Kenji, if you’re still around, I’ll step back immediately, of course.
Gonna make it a rather easy one – so Ties, be quick!

Don't know this one... :-(

It's a lowercase, italic d, and a beautiful one at that.

It sure is beautiful, yes.

Linda is right about the italic d, of course.
Some trivia? The font designer’s father was into type design himself. When the font was expanded 65 years after its first release, the work was done by another type designer’s son.
The font is named after someone whose father again had the same profession.

It is Cochin Italic.

Beat me to it, Pieter!

Yes, that’s right! Designed in 1913 by Georges Peignot, son of Gustave Peignot, expanded by Matthew Carter, son of Harry Carter. Named after Nicolas Cochin le jeune (the younger), son of— well, you know …

By the way, this beauty comes (or used to come?) with the standard Mac OSX installation.
Pieter, please take over!

Succes!

Looks like Futura Display, but upon closer examination, I don't think so ...

Futura Display is very nice, but this eogonek is from a different typeface.

It looks like Teuton Fett Bold

Hello Irène, it’s not looking like Teuton, it is Teuton.
It’s you turn now.

Next one...

It really looks Lineto Vectrex, but it isn't.

Maybe Gridnik?

This type was created by a Typophile font designer.
And no, it is not Vectrex or Gridnik.

I thought it by be SuperDuty by James Grieshaber by it doesn't match either.

SuperDuty it isn't.

Time for another hint
It is a unicase and tabular typeface

Time for another hint. It is a unicase and tabular typeface, created by a Typophile font designer. He recently created new typefaces for a major canadian newspaper.

awwww. i woulda know from the last clue! but i'll let someone else get this one. i have a nice little booklet set in this suite of faces given to me by the designer: it's very interesting.

Panoptica Octagonal

Yes, it is Panoptica Octogonal, by Nick Shinn. Your turn now.

This one should be easy... I picked it because it caused my eyes to cross when I first saw it, haha...

Oh, georgeous double-v! That looks like Monotype’s Ehrhardt, coming in semibold italic flavour.

You are correct, sir! :D
(Isn't it scrumptious?)
Your turn...

Great!
You are correct —Well, not in spelling gorgeous … 8-}
Okay, here is mine:

"The person who posts a challenge can’t win the next game."

Does this mean that I can't answer this one? ;-)

I guess that’s what it says … :°) Yet, you may help providing hints—if necessary.

Okay, first hint: The glyph is not taken from an italic cut—although there are italics with this font.

Another hint? In 5 years, the typeface will be as old as its designer was when he made it.

It's sure a beauty, Florian!

Ah, Linda, glad to see that there’s still someone around!
All too often—imho—it’s a Sleeping Beauty, slumbering in the Library folders of people who think system fonts inherently have to suck.

>Okay, first hint: The glyph is not taken from an italic cut—although there are italics with this font.

Is this “f” could be a fake outline italic created from the short cut keyboard?

This glyph is neither a 'f’ (f as in U+0066) nor is it a fake outline.

That is Latin small letter f with a hook. According to the character palette. Also used to designate folders by some.

Yes, that’s the glyph! It’s my favourite one—as it is also called ‘florin’.

it is also called ‘florin’

...because it's used to designate that currency as well, right?

Right. Actually, the currency’s name is 'Gulden’ (Guilder). The Dutch, among others, used it from 1279 until 2002—when it got replaced by the Euro. The first gulden was named ‘florijn’, for the coin bore the Florentine lily. Nowadays, there’s still the Netherlands Antillean gulden (NAƒ) and the Aruban florin in use, afaik.

Wow, thanks for all of the info, Florian. Good to know.

Since nobody has replied for a few days, I feel compelled to give a further hint... ;-)

As Florian previously hinted (more obscurely), it is a font bundled with recent Mac OS X systems.

Thanks, Tyler! I can’t believe there’s no-one around who knows the answer. (Well, except Tyler :-)

Yes, Kris, that’s correct! Actually, I took the glyph from the plain OSX system font called ‘Hoefler Text Regular’ (Jonathan Hoefler, 1991). In addition to small caps, sub- & superscript, diacritics and several numerals, this font contains the ‘Engraved’ set. (However, I don’t know how one would access those glyphs in another way than via the glyph palette.)

Your turn. :°D

Indeed! I remember using it ages ago to render the Desiderata poem for the missus.

In keeping with the monetary theme:

Hmm, this looks very Egizio/Belizo-ish to me.

Yeah, the 'Hoefler Text.dfont' is a bit of an odd duck. I don't know what compelled me to crack it open with fontforge, but I discovered some really wonderful things there. Also some odd things.

The big problem is that it's really only designed for use with Apple Advanced Typography; the OpenType tables are missing a lot. Even on the AAT side, the italic ligatures aren't tagged at all, so I don't know if programs just look for the 'f_i' glyph anyways and use it if they find it, or what...

The OpenType tables that are there are more often than not 'lfbd' and 'rtbd' (left and right bounds), which is great if you've got a program that can choose a character based on whether or not it's at the beginning or end of a line, but not so useful otherwise.

I use TeX mostly (which obviously doesn't play "find the ligature"!) but IIRC, InDesign didn't use them automatically either.

I'm saving my pennies to buy the Hoefler Text & Hoefler Titling bundle! :D

Is this one too hard? It is a slab, but quite insane! The designer is known for his distinctive style.

As Yves has said before, :things like currency symbols are notoriously hard to identify." :-)

Ok then! Here is another one. Someone should be able to storm on in & guess it now.

Is it Farao Text bold?

It is actually Farao Black, but that is close enough! Farao Book works surprisingly well for text, I used recently & was very pleased with the results. I gave it a short review as well for our national design magazine (this is the unproofed version)

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FARAO
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To classify Farao merely as a ‘slab-serif’ is akin to describing Twin Peaks as a mere ‘drama’: the closer you look at it the weirder it gets. It is true that Farao has slab-serifs, but looking at the individual details reveals the eccentricities of certain letterforms, strange constructions that challenge one’s notion of how a letterform should be ‘correctly’ formed.

If the ‘g’, for instance, was a person then it would’ve been locked away at birth. The ‘c’ contradicts the vertical stress of the ‘o’ and differs entirely the pointed stroke finish of the ‘e’. The slabs of the ‘s’ bully the rest of it’s curves into submission, giving the appearance of a contorted snake about to strike. Farao’s uppercase isn’t quite as deranged as the lowercase—the inherited straightjacket of majuscule limits overly affected construction. The numerals, however, flaunt the familial oddness beautifully—slab-serifs and ball terminals are held together with excellent curves.

Up close, Farao is certainly odd, but the individual inconsistencies make it perversely consistent as a whole. It is a warm, full-bodied family with a palatable coal-fired heft. Designed by František Štorm, it is available in a confusing array of styles. This is fortunately allayed by the very reasonable price and OpenType compatibility.

Farao can be purchased from www.stormtype.com

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Thanks for the Interesting review, Kris.
I am leaving for two weeks so it is better if somebody else posts the next one.

Ok. Here is the next challenge. I think it’s a beauty!

Parry grotesque normal or semi-bold

from Ourtype:

Parry is a typeface design of Artur Schmal. It began as Schmal's graduation project at Type & Media in The Hague. Inspired by the sturdy typefaces of Edmund Fry and Thorowhood, it came out as a rather traditional, heavy slab serif, complemented by an even heavier condensed variant and a series of sanserif capitals.

As of 2004 the typeface saw further development: First, designing the slab serif that would be suitable for composing longer texts yet retaining the Victorian atmosphere. Secondly, drawing a matching Grotesque, as part of the same family.

Despite its nineteenth-century perfume, Parry is a contemporary type family. It produces a rounder and softer image than the often rigid slab serifs of those times. Some of Parry's design features - like the top serifs - have an outward bulge. And, although such details might be regarded as 'not done', Schmal opted for them, because 'it simply looks good' in combination with sharp-edged bottom of the lowercase c, e and d.

Parry Grotesque family comes in four weights: Normal, Bold, Semi-bold and Black and comprises matching Italics, Small Caps, as well as text figures.

Available in Open Type Standard, TrueType and PostScript for Mac and PC. OpenType Pro is scheduled for release in Spring 2007.

Dries, that was a very fast one!
It’s close enough because it’s the small caps weight.
It’s your turn now.

Pieter

this one shouldn't be to difficult.

{sorry, double posting}

That is the italic r from Galliard Black!

Galliard got its name from a Renaissance dance which is ‘characterized by leaps, jumps, hops, and other similar figures. The main feature that defines a galliard step is that the last two beats consist of a large jump, landing with one leg ahead of the other. […] The galliard was a favorite dance of Queen Elizabeth I […] The distinctive 6/8 rhythm can still be heard today in songs such as “God Save the Queen.”’ [¹]

The font was designed by Royal Designer Matthew Carter in 1978—2 years before he became typography consultant to Her Majesty’s Stationery Office [²]—as a reinterpretation of Granjon’s 16th century style. [³]

It was Galliard bold italic, but close enough!
You win.

It was Galliard bold italic, but close enough!
Are you sure?

Well, whatever, here’s the next one:


Good luck everyone!

No, it’s not squooshed …

If ‘Manners maketh man’ as someone said
Then he’s the hero of the day
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say

Do we get bonus points for singing the harmony in the song? ;-) (I have no idea about the typeface, but it's one of my fave tunes by that artist....)

Hehe, yeah, bonus points for the Sting fans! :D
Actually, that was a quite cryptic hint—sorry: It’s an English font from New York (whatever that means).

The glyph shown isn’t latin—however it is part of Mac OS Roman.

Then, the combination of this glyph and this font is very unlikely, I can’t imagine a lot of people actually have used it. Certainly they will be outnumbered by those who have missed U+26AD in this font.

The name of this English font from New York is similar to the name of an—at least in England very popular—Englishman in L.A.

It wouldn't be Bickham, would it? ;-)

Congratulations, Linda! Yay, it’s Bickham, indeed. The glyph is the Greek uc letter Sigma (∑), used in math as a summation operator.

To be precise, it is Bickham Script Pro Bold. While the Standard version shows a rather generic non-script ∑, the Pro features this fancy one—which, imho, looks like a L hit by a flowerpot (or a £ that can’t afford a proper crossbar).
It’s nice to see the makers cared about those poor cousins of the charset table. Still, I wonder who wants to have a summation operator on a wedding invitation… Then, mathematicians can be quite peculiar.

For the record: It was New Yorker Richard Lipton who ‘has further explored the design possibilities of this 18th century English round hand writing’ [¹]. The font was named after George Bickham, ‘English writing master and engraver […] famous for his manual The Universal Penman’ [²].

Your turn.

Still, I wonder who wants to have a summation operator on a wedding invitation…

:-) Isn't a wedding supposed to be 1 + 1 = 2?

I'm utterly amazed I got this -- and I'm sure I'll never get another one.

At any rate, here's mine. With one month and a few days to our local Highland Games, and just six months and a few days to Christmas (this frugal Scot's favourite holiday), do you have your ornaments organized? ;-)

What is that⁈ A papaver capsule?

ROFL! No. :-)

Reread my hint, Florian.

Ah! Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to answer this one … :°)

Time for a hint, I see.

Originally released as a Postscript Type 1 font with a large Expert Set, this font is now part of the Standard Mac OSX install.

part of the Standard Mac OSX install
Are you sure? Mine came with the Adobe CS(2) install …

Ah, you're correct -- I double-checked, and it came as part of my InDesign CS install.

Hmmm, I guess that's another hint.

mmm, I guess that’s another hint.
Haha! Still no fewer than 13 left to go through … ;°p

Indeed! We have a winner.... ;-)

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