Baskerville. Well, most of them.

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Caslon

I was just using the curled W swash in Garamond Premier Pro. I bet that Minion Pro, Adobe Garamond Pro, and Adobe Jenson Pro would have it too, but I don’t know offhand.

It’s not in Adobe Garamond Italic, Minion Italic, or Adobe Jenson Italic. It may be in their OT alt glyphs, but I think this is more of a Caslon and Baskerville form.

This form is also in the lower case of Elzevir, which was probably the model for Caslon. You can see it in DTL Elzevir.

Elzevir is much later than Caslon.

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Eldorado, based on a design by W.A. Dwiggins, has the looped w you seek.

>Elzevir is much later than Caslon.

To clarify: I was not referring to the 19th century French type called by that name, revived by Monotype, but to the 17th century types of Van Dijck that were used by the Dutch publishing house Elzevir and are the basis of DTL Elzevir. These types of are often cited as models for Caslon’s work in the 18th century. They do bear a definite resemblence, though there are differences.

Point taken, although AFAIK the term Elzevir for type was in fact first
used by “indie” French founders in the second half of 19th century.

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I thought Elzevir was Dutch too. I just saw a bok printed by them 4 months ago.

Yes, Bill is right. See?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Elzevir

Of course Elzevir is Dutch. But the term “Elzevir” in type was/is used to label late-19th century French type that thought it was imitating the Dutch stuff by that house. Read Ovink’s monumental three-part article in Qaerendo about the 19th-century reactions against the Didone hegemony.

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>italic “w”’s with a little curly-cue in the middle

Hoefler Text
Scotch Roman MT
Bell MT

and as a “preform” the italic-w of Plantin

But the term “Elzevir” in type was/is used to label...

So what you are saying is that the French movement against the Didone took up the name “Elzevir” and that the movement for some reason is intellectually more relveant - or something else?

Also, what is “Qaerendo”? I will look it up, but I am intertested in your comments about it too.

I found some online Stuff. BTW for anyone else looking for info it is “Quaerendo”.

> the French movement against the Didone took up the name “Elzevir”

One of the many reactions was called that, yes.

> the movement for some reason is intellectually more relveant

Not necessarily, it’s just that no typestyle was called that before then.

And sorry I forgot the “q”’s eternal companion! :-)
BTW sometimes it’s spelled with an aesc.

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