where?

Hey, pretty good! It's both accessible and learned, full of praise and constructive criticism - but no fawning, thankfully. I hope more people emulate what you've done here - we need more type reviews. And thanks for the quoting.

Two small things:
- A typo: "overfly" instead of "overly". Were you on a plane? :-)
- You write "3/4 or hybrid numerals", but they're not the same thing.

Oh, and:
"But when you’re living with your song for too long, constantly developing and refining it, you risk losing some of the freshness. The cost of being able to play it flawlessly is the loss of its initial spontaneity." Wow. I want a poster of that.

hhp

Oh, I forgot:
Eben, you just had a problem I've been having with the redesign: the dark blue link highlight (the first words of Yves's post) is hard to see.

hhp

R I G H T . . .

Yeah, Thats what I have been making links like this now { link }. But yeah, a change in the css would be better.

(...) thanks for the quoting.

Hey, like I'm going to pretend I discovered those Fleischmann references myself? ;-) Credit where credit's due.

Two small things:
- A typo: “overfly” instead of “overly”. Were you on a plane? :-)
- You write “3/4 or hybrid numerals”, but they’re not the same thing.

Fixed, and fixed. Type terminology regarding numerals (or is it figures?) is prone to confusion, and I got caught in it myself. Just to be sure: 3/4 numerals are lining but smaller than caps and bigger than x-height? And hybrid numerals have ascenders and descenders that overshoot only a little bit, not as much as the ascenders and descenders of the lowercase characters? (Or is it small letters?) ;-)

Oh, and:
“But when you’re living with your song for too long, constantly developing and refining it, you risk losing some of the freshness. The cost of being able to play it flawlessly is the loss of its initial spontaneity.” Wow. I want a poster of that.

Thanks. Never thought playing in a rock band would open my mind to philosophical... errr... stuff. ;-)

> 3/4 numerals are lining but smaller than caps and bigger than x-height?

Yup. Just watch how you use "lining"... :-/ Damn number thingies.

> And hybrid numerals have ascenders and descenders that overshoot only a little bit,
> not as much as the ascenders and descenders of the lowercase characters?

Sounds good. And they're [normally] shorter than the UC and/or ascenders overall.
Another way is to say they're oldstyle numerals with "bodies" larger than the lc x-height.

Now let me tell you about poodlemix numerals... Or maybe some other day.

hhp

Nice job! It really needs a Fenway sample.

Nice work, Yves. All gorgeous families for different reasons and, I think, all worthy of use for different purposes.

Correction: Second to last paragraph, fourth line. I believe you meant "... or and imitator of ..."

I have to say that I agree with Stephen's quibble.

doesn't Typophile support "strike" or "strikethrough"? well, ignore my correction. I had it explained to me. Mea Culpa.

I'll ask Robb if he can do something about a Fenway sample. I've got two PDfs, but I'm very cautious with review materials. Not doing anything without getting permission.

Are the PDFs public? If they are public, they're public.

hhp

If they were public, I think they would be readily available on the FontBureau, Inc. website. ;-)

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