Musee Alt by Dino Dos Santos and FF DIN by Albert-Jan Pool.

Renko you're a star, thanks so much.

I think the |t| & |J| of Musee Alt do not match.
It looks closer to Plantin Infant MT to me.

and the 2nd one looks like Akkurat

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Fivos, you are absolutely right. Was too hasty in my decisions …