I think that Font Bureau will allow embedding if you pay a 50% surcharge on your licence. I don't like it either, but it's their business, not mine.

You might look at Metron and FF Unit.

> it's their business, not mine.

Wait, I thought The Customer Is Always Right?!
Damn this Capitalism business is confusing...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4347325.stm

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Tiff, it sounds like you're looking for as literal a replacement for Stainless as possible. Don't be clingy - it might be better to step back, and start over. What is the newsletter about? Who is it for now, and who should it be for in the future? How much text? Illustrations - what kind? What's the desired Readability/Style balance? Etc.

hhp

"Wait, I thought The Customer Is Always Right?!"

Hahahaha! Good one, Hrant!

Gustavo:
Monotype's EULA states:

"You may not embed Font Software in a Commercial Product without a separate written license from MI, and you may not embed Font Software in an electronic document or data file for any reason other than your own Personal or Internal Business Use."

So, I don't think NeoSans would solve the problem.

john nolan wrote:
> Gustavo:
> Monotype's EULA states: (...)
> So, I don't think NeoSans would solve the problem.

ops! thanks for clarifying...

(a very nice font though.)

- g.

If you want another geometric sans, I highly recommend Eric Olson's Klavika. Just licensed and used it for a project, and it rocks.

http://www.processtypefoundry.com/typefaces/klavika/index.html

The Process Type EULA allows embedding. One potential hitch: the basic license is just for one CPU, rather than the more common "up to 5 CPUs."

amplitude and stainless are very nice. what do you think of these ones:

nuri
reform
sophisto
apex sans

Romesh,

Thanks a bunch for your suggestion of Sophisto.

Cheers/SH

Tiff, makes sense.

I think Process Type might indeed be a great place to look.

hhp

Tiffany, the other sans I considered for my project were Flama and Morgan from Feliciano Type Foundry. Flama may have too much humanism mixed into its grotesque-ness for your needs, but Morgan is pleasingly geometric.

http://www.secretonix.pt/ftf/catalogue/FTFmorganProject.htm
http://www.secretonix.pt/ftf/catalogue/FTFflama00.htm

Tiffany:
Is the 10% fee for a limited distribution of PDFs?

What about respect for full disclosure, Tiffany? How is revealing non-secret details of a business agreement disrespectful towards a house's typefaces?

hhp

Those do seem like pretty steep rates. I'd think this is a foundry that feels very concerned about or threatened by embedding.

On the flip side, if I were Font Bureau I'd either increase or eliminate their embedding fees. Right now the need for extra licensing is an irritant to the customer, and the amounts of money are kinda small.

Cheers,

T