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Is the relation between Zurich and Univers something similar to Arial and Helvetica?
They are very similar.

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Check the first half of this thread.
You'll find some links and info there.

In my point-of-view, Zurich is not to Univers what Arial is to Helvetica.
The Zurich issue (naming, copyright) is different from Arial issue (design).

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Zurich is Bitstream's version of Univers. The designs are as close as any two versions of the same typefaces can be except in name. Now that they've reached reached an agreement with Linotype, they will be calling it Univers as well.

This will never happen with Arial. It's superficially similar, but its details are quite different from Helvetica. They do share the same character widths and weights. This is due to the fact that Arial was created as a substitute for Helvetica.

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Yves,

Can you list other font name combinations that are the same like Zurich-Univers or point me to a link that has that information.

I have the entire original Adobe CD collection but would like to use the best digitized face no matter who made it.

Thanks,
gln

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Well i took a look yesterday to identifont and found these:

aldine 401 = bembo
classical garamond = sabon
dutch 766 = adobe caslon
dutch 801 = times headline
dutch 811 = olympian
dutch 823 = aster
elegant garamond = granjon
geometric 231 = kabel
geometric 415 = metro
geometric 706 = neuzeit grotesk
geometric slabserif 703 = memphis
geometric slabserif 712 = rockwell
gothic 720 = venus halbfett
humanist 521 = gill sans
humanist 531 = syntax
humanist 731 = frutiger
incised 901 = antique olive
kuenstler 480 = trump mediaeval
lapidary 333 = perpetua
latin 725 = meridien
modern 880 = linotype modern
monospace 821 = helvetica monosp.
news 701 = ionic no 5
news 702 = exc�lsior
news 705 = corona
onyx = poster bodoni con.
original garamond = stempel garamond
square 721 = eurostile
revival 555 = horley old style
revival 565 = berling
ribbon 131 = coronet
news 706 = aurora
swiss 721 = helvetica
swiss 911 = helvetica comp.
transitional 521 = electra
venetian 301 = centaur
zapf calligraphic 801 = palatino
zapf humanist 601 = optima
zapf elliptical 711 = melior
zurich = univers


looking nearly to some type designs it�s obvious that bitstream�s versions diverge in many important ways, for example, bitstream�s gill sans is wider, and bitstream�s electra has very odd character variations.

Most of the pc users in mexico drive bitstream�s fonts because they come with corel draw.

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