Those are two different ampersands.

The first one is, I believe, set in Caslon. The ampersand likely from the italic version.

The second one, alas, has me stumped.

Sorry, I was unclear, I know they are different ampersands. The first typeface does look similar to Caslon but it is wider, and the serifs on the "S" are different. Also, this ampersand is slightly more decorative than the italic Caslon ampersand. Thanks for the help though!

A closer photo might help. I am pretty sure the first one is one of the many Caslon incarnations.

I created an ampersand collage for a project about a week ago. In other words, I pretty much viewed every ampersand in my font library.

While the examples below may not be an exact match to yours, they are certainly close. The first version of baskerville is a specific version copyrighted and trademarked by a large company. Never fear, I am not a pirate. These fonts were given to me by the company and their characters have never left the artboard of my computer screen (until now, right?)

How does that work? I guess if you own the copyright to a font/s, you can give them to whoever you wish, correct?

just noticed this member's avatar in the "online" box below. might want to add him to the list! http://typophile.com/user/1551

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Yeah, my avatar is the bold italic ampersand from my Williams Caslon Text. I don't know if Caslon was the first one to do this style. Probably not, and he certainly wasn't the last, but is the best known. The larger sizes are higher contrast and more curly. There isn't one single design, even in the originals of Caslon. The curves on mine were kind of inspired also by the old fashioned baby "pram" in England.

Unfortunately, I can't identify the ones above.