It's a style called Tuscan Ornate, which has many varieties. My Script Font ID Guide has several modern revivals by Font Mesa on pages 33 & 34 of Part 5.

The one called 'Main Strike' is most similar to your sample, I think.

you are an absolute legend - you star!

thank you very much mate - you've been most helpful.

all the best

Actually Mike, there's a destroyed-Tuscan font called Immoral, which is exactly the font that's used in Mark's sample.

Yes, I could see that his sample had been 'messed up', but I didn't know if it was a graphics 'mutilation', or a grunged font. I thought he'd at least want the basic style, as a starting point.

Good catch Ryan.

thank you ryan and mike so much. i wasnt sure either whether it had been manipulated or not but i guess now we know the answer.

good work guys.

thank you once again.

later