I'm a bit surprised that it isn't any of these.

Me too. It has a curious Zapf flavour.

Yeah, my first thought too... But I checked all my Zapfs's and they didn't match. Good old Herman seems to prefer doubledecked g's.

It's dangerously close to Dolly by underware.

Not so, James. Dolly is rounder and has a LOT more serifs... But you could be on to something -- it may be one from the "The Hague" school of type designers...

It also resembles ITC Cerigo, but the 'y' is wrong for starters. Cataneo has a closer y, but that's all.

Also checked the works of the 'other' Zapf, but Nofret, Carmina and Diotima weren't right.

FF Tarquinius Plus italic is rather close too, but the serifs tails on the g & y are not as long.

I really appreciate the work you've done. It's looks like is a mix of lots of the typeface you suggested.

I insert a k to help to look foward or to continue the search. Thanks again.

Where does this come from? When and where was it printed?
Knowing that might help.

This italic typeface is used in the Applied Arts magazine (Canada's Visual Communications magazine) on all their issues. The latest version is December 2004.

A did you ask Applied Arts Magazine directly? Not all people are so protective of their fonts.

Good suggestion. I will let you know if identify that font. Thanks

Just as a comment, this thread reminds me once again how hard it is to identify the italic of a typeface. Few books deal with them as thoroughly as they do with the Roman faces.

I wish I had all the time in the world, because that would make a great subject for another Font ID Guide.

It's almost a dead ringer for URW Palladio, but the "g" nor the "k" match up... also, it looks to be condensed, in my opinion..

I'm also surprised no one has mentioned Palatino to this point...

Ryan, Palatino was pretty much covered in the earlier comments about the Zapf designs. There does seem to be a strong resemblance, but as we've seen, these are not the only ones with some of these features.

I tried using 'WhatTheFont', just for kicks, and got Novarese Italic, and was surprised to see the similarities, even though it's clearly not the font we are looking for.

I hope 'A' gets a response from Applied Arts Magazine, but I suspect a customized font, or one from a foundry we don't often look at.

I also think it's a customized font. I took a look to Palladio and Palatino but the g, y, k seems to come from an another typeface.

I did not receive a response from Applide Arts yet.

Take a look to this and give me your opinion :
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/diotima/italic/

Thanks again for your cooperation.

I think if you look at Diotima with your letters, you can see the obvious differences. The shapes and serifs are not right, even though there are similarities.

Diotima was one of the fonts by Gudrun Zapf von Hess that I mentioned above.

You're right. I was wrong. I am not desparate yet but I think with this Thypophile forums we will be able to find that typeface.

The challenge is still open. I pursuit the work.

I am still looking. I have reviewed the Dutch Type Library - nothing matches.

Found another font with many very similar features. It is Rayuela Ligera Italic from PampaType, designed by Alejandro Lo Celso.

Wow! Good work.

So far, this font is the closest one.

I also insert an other font used in Applied Arts for the title :



I do some search to find that font :

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/swiss-911/ultra-compressed/?PREFS_SET%5BRenderSize%5D=36&PREFS_SET%5BRenderString%5D=Ending+the+Font+Wars

Looking the g and r, they seems to come from an other typeface.

I really start to think thoses fonts are customized font for Applied Arts Magazine.

I think this new sample shows Smart Sans from Agfa-Monotype (see font at code 36-21 in the Sans Serif Font ID Guide).

Here is the Bold showing at Fonts.com.

Thanks Mike, I am happy to see that's not a customized font.

Patients A, remember we just had Thanksgiving a long holiday weekend. If you get a response from Applied Arts it would probably be this week.

I think this is Cartier Book Italic by Agfa Monotype which was designed for the Canadian Centennial.

Excellent! How did you find that? There's some info about it here.

I briefly looked for Canadian designs, but only got as far as here before being overwhelmed.

I think you've got it! Good work again James.

Good work to all of you especially to the one who find it.

I am really happy.


Thanks again.

It's sure not the same as the Cartier shown in the FontBook (Big Yellow), which is the one Agfa bundled with CgHolland. See attached:


I'm interested to know how you found it too.

Dang! I suspected Cartier (although I am not very familiar with its italic) because of the C, but it wasn't on MyFonts and I didn't think to look beyond that.

Mike, there are more than one Cartier. The original one is from the '70s (we had it on a Compugraphic machine) and was designed by Carl Dair. Raleigh is based somewhat on it. A new version of Cartier was designed recently with changes to make it more useful as a text face (like slanting the italic caps, etc.).

While reading the responses here, I saw a mention about the "Big Yellow" Type Book. Any idea where I can get a copy?

Try eBay and second-hand booksellers, or wait till next year for the new edition. See this thread.

From all of us, James, thanks for lifting this off our backs!

Good job James!