Hey, thanks! Sounds interesting.
The time given is for the UK, right? Even so, the timing for over here won't be indecent.

BTW, you wrote "Monday through Friday": does that mean it will repeat each day next week, or what?

hhp

Yes, UK time. It'll be five individual programmes on the theme.

The listing only goes up to Wednesday at the moment, but here's the detail so far:

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1/5. John Carey, chairman of last year's Man Booker Prize judges, explores the process of reading and the science of how words on a page create pictures in the mind.

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2/5. John Carey, chairman of last year's Man Booker Prize judges, explores the process of reading. Does reading in a different language or page layout affect our understanding of a text?

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3/5. In the third programme in the series, John Carey investigates the importance of the personal imagination each reader brings to a text. He talks to neuroscientists about the reading process, and asks authors Sue Townsend and Francis Spufford to explain their experience of reading.

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Wow, quite tantalizing.
It would be great to somehow get all this archived too.

hhp

I've heard there are ways to record streamed audio, it'll probably be available for 7 days after broadcast. The problem with these daily "shorts" is that it is normally only the latest programme that's available.

I'm sure the BBC would pass on an enquiry to the production company responsible.

>>I've heard there are ways to record streamed audio

Well a TV/radio tuner card is the easiest way, but mine seems to be incapable of picking up Radio 4 at the moment. If all else fails I could record the program as an mpeg from the TV, then convert to a sound file.
Another way of recording:
Most decent sound cards, and even some crap ones, have a switch in the software control panel to set recording source between line-in, microphone, or 'what I hear'.
Free software such as wavelab lite will then record 'what you hear' to a wav file. Converting from wav to mp3 or CD audio shouldn't be a problem.

There are other ways, but I think these would be the most straightforward.

the first show was aired today. Tommorrows sounds more interesting.

You can listen to it or save it in realaudio format at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/progs/listenagain.shtml

and Listen for 'Mind Reading'

was pretty good.

On a Mac, this is a nifty application if you'd like to record off the (interweb) radio streams from the BBC:

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/

Also, if you're a bit of a BBC Radio internet streaming fan then this utility is great for the schedules, and integrates with RealPlayer:

http://members.cox.net/flixtonsoftware/Steam/

The timing bombed for me after all... :-(
But/so Vince thanks for that link!

David, anything like that for Windows?

hhp

on Windows you can convert (record) the real audio RAM file after you download it from the bbc site (right mouse clips/save) then I've tried this:

http://www.audioutilities.com/audio-mp3-recorder/audio-reocrd-wizard.htm

You have to follow thier instructions how to record from your source. Run the Audio Utilities program and then create a new .mp3 file. Run RealAudio. Open the .ram file. Select record in the Audio Utilities then play in Real Audio and it records it into mp3.

you can also do the same thing with the Windows Sound Recorder. Run the Real Audio file and record it in the Windows recorder and save it to .wav.

Thanks!

hhp

I missed part 3. Did anyone save the .ram?

I didn't save it, but I did think it was the weakest so far - too much concern about sound. BTW, isn't it ironic that the narrator has a speech impediment? :-)

Today's seemed promising though - I'll be tuning in soon.

hhp

Never mind: the download URL turned out to be intuitive:

rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/wed1545.ra

These files seem to hang around for a week. So I'm blagging the whole series.

Me too; I actually missed part 2, also.

Hopefully, they will make a web page w/ all the programs. It seems like they've done that to most of the others.

It's a pretty fascinating site. I can't wait to listen to "Dung Science".

cross-post. Thanks, John.

> blagging

Making up words too now, are we? ;-)
Sounds like something a Norman jester would do.

hhp

Are you confusing blagging with mummers and bladders?

EDIT: actually, I understand blagging to mean gaining possession or entry by bluff or deceit.

Blag originated in cockney slang, where it meant to steal something. More recently it has been used in a general sense of 'nabbing something' whether legally or not. So one might say that one 'blagged the best seats in the cinema', for instance. It is also used to refer to talking someone into giving you something, e.g. 'I blagged my way into the nightclub'.

By the way, I've found the best way to blag BBC radio on Windows is Net Transport which will save streaming audio and video in native formats. Then you can convert to MP3 with something like the Boilsoft converter.