Hrant,

1. "fart" has ---> "art"

2. "injustice" ----> "ice"


David Hamuel

Dear Anonymous,

This is folk etymology gone really, really bad. Smileys aside, your sexism and culture-centricity shine through like a bright, white dunce cap in your dark shadow of anonymity. The word woman is from Old English and means

Guys, please butt out.

We would prefer if male typophiles respect this area of Typophile as a place where only women post.. So far it is not working very well. It is perhaps not very clearly posted. I'm sure this can be remedied somehow.

One tactic that I find women using more often than men, and I have no idea why, is that we often continue to carry on our own vital conversations and ignore any troll who might wish to sidetrack us with arguments that are both dull and silly. That is what was happening here, and the strategy was fairly successful.

This area is currently visible to all so that both men and women can learn from the way women interact with one another and view a particular part of the typophile world. One of the best ways male typophiles could learn is by repressing the urge to post and, instead, to watch how we women prefer to handle these situations.

I do appreciate the good intentions in your posts. I don't appreciate your inability to respect our request that you not post here at all.

Oh, hell. I thought this was in the Alphabetty section (I went through the what's new board). ••••. Sorry. Sorry. ••••. All is forgiven. Sorta.

Sheesh!

I love AlphaBetty. It's another one of those little things about America that are just so funny.

Compugraphic and Monotype were one of the few companies and this industry of type making had more woman managers than probably any other company producing machines. At CG I had a man middle manager on the second shift but the first shift it was a woman, and her boss a woman, and her boss a man. Then the late eighties it was a woman that headed the whole place. The drawing office had more men than woman and the first shift did too. The second shift it was about 50%. And not everyone was of the same race about more diverse than the general public. The more manual labour jobs were more blokey. At Microsoft and in most tech jobs it's more men in the engineering sections, more woman in the 'consumer' groups and more woman as admins. In England it's a whole new ball game. You can ask anyone even a woman to make tea for you if they are making it. Watch 'The Office' on BBC (America ?) and you'll get an earfull of culture you won't find in Springfield.. Even Lowri Turner shocked me on Shopping City (2000) at 5pm with her comment to a woman trying on a top 'look at the cleavage on you'. God bless the English (and Welsh too).

>>In England...You can ask anyone even a woman to make tea for you if they are making it.

True
OK, I know there are some screwed up places around the world, but where are the places where you can't do this?

"God bless the English......." -

And Ireland



David Hamuel

I think its like in that frank zappa song..
It's like 'superman' is a super man. 'Woman' is a man that goes wooo all the time.

Tiff, so what's happening with Alphabetty now? I can't find the thread? Has it started already?

Thanks Tiff. I can't believe I didn't see it before!

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>>V.C. wrote: In England...You can ask anyone even a woman to make tea for you if they are making it.

>Steve Paxton wrote: True
>OK, I know there are some screwed up places >around the world, but where are the places where >you can't do this?

America.. if you asked a woman at work to make you a tea they might get you sacked and sued.

Vincent said "might" - and he has a point.

hhp

as a Yank living in London I get to see how the non Americans act less worried about being sued or sacked so they say it like it is. That is pretty general but common. I saw a 45 year old woman in a car park ask 3 young males for change for the parking machine. That's what I love about England less racism, less fear, and a bit more freedom even with out rules for segregation to get equality. You could only find a place like Alphabetty in America. This is the ironic bit. My favourite difference is with my car keys for my two Audis. One is made for America and one made for England. The American key has a red button with the words 'PANIC' on it, the english one doesn't.

I kinda lost my car in Sheen but just pointed the English thing up the road and the lights blinked and bob's your uncle.

The thing that sucks too is the American car has that annoying beepy noise if you leave the door open with the keys in. The English one doesn't nag so much and goes at a wicked 215 BHP!!! take that Detroit or Mexico.

> annoying beepy noise

That is so true. There's entirely too much mechanical nagging these days, especially in cars.

No wonder drivers are getting worse, they're distracted by robots telling them things like "Warning: Your cupholder is not fully deployed."

hhp

interesting import problem... of a new car and English prices dropped drastically due to Euro pressures in 2000.

And you can't ignore a wicked S3 @ 0-100KM/H in 6.6sec....

Jay Kay would agree it's not eccessive. Ken Livingston can stick his

It's not a Saab it's a german Audi made for American the bloody A4 (like I need a ski package in London) .... it's passed Vehicle Inspectorate change rear lights from RED indicators to AMBER for EU requirements and headlights to go the other way. It's my baseball car and my Europe car so when you drive on the right you sit on the left and not get hit by and Italian truck driver on the motorway. But you got a ride in the S3 to the airport and we made the flight!!!!! woohooo. Next time you'll have to try the lumbar support thing in the seats, it's wicked...

> 0-100KM/H in 6.6sec

For real street racing, roll-on acceleration and braking power
are much more important than red-light-to-red-light ego trippin'.

In the city, give me a light, small car (4 gears are plenty) with
a progressive-two-barrel carburator, great brakes and decent balance,
and I can run rings around so-called "sports cars" costing ten times more.

Like a 76's BMW 2002 ti (not tii) with a simple carb mod is plenty.

hhp

Driving from Liverpool or Manchester or East Anglia, you can use SIX forward gears... nanana shift at about 70mph into sixth... and accelerate by any big truck in seconds.....and Audi S3 is way excessive but way worth it. Welcome to Typ-o-gear.

> accelerate by any big truck

And I can jump over turtles in an English garden... ;-)

hhp

> Welcome to Typ-o-gear.

Yeah, it's funny: this thread was about girls, now it's about cars.

hhp

"Welcome to Typ-o-gear."

now this thread is turning to car talk!? so much for
Alphabetty! ;)

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Vince, you are a man after my own heart. I have a 2000 S4 sedan myself. Cactus Green. 60 in 5.5. Perhaps we should move this to a car thread.

So has Alphabetty gone full-stealth? If so, did it help?

hhp

It looks like they took it off. If so, I don't think it has been given a fair chance. Something like this takes time to work.

Karen, hello. it is here: http://www.typophile.com/forums/messages/13210/13210.html?1060017178

Stop Generalizing Vince.

Ok. So the word "might" might prove Vince might not be generalizing. I might have to remember to use "might" more often. ;^)

Funny. I thought the panic button was used in the bloated American parking lots when you can't find your car.

Two Audi's! Isn't that a bit excessive? Surely there's some interesting story behind that? ;-)

Vince, I thought your "American" Saab was in storage north of London. ;^P

Soooorrrry! I meant AUDI not SAAB.

That's pretty dumb. The word "believe" has "lie" in it. Fart.

If anything, your example points out an injustice.

hhp