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New design - worth persuing!

Jean Paul Beumer

Greetings all,

I made this design last week, for a friend of mine who's in e-commerce and web shops. I got the idea from some free font which was really terribly constructed, but now it's turned into something completely different. He likes it very much, and so do I. Yet I wonder if it is worth persuing? I know there are so many lookalikes out there...

What do you think?

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Rensz.pdf214.3 KB
ultrablack-draft.pdf262.27 KB
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RenzDisplay 23aug10.pdf18.17 KB

This is very nice! I would most certainly pursue this.

Suggestion: the rounded portions of 'a', 'e' and 's' stand out me against the contours of the other characters. Thoughts?

I prefer the contours of the 's' very much. I also enjoy the subtle curves in the 'v' and 'w'. I'm not a fan of the open 'p,q,b,d and e' or at least they feel a little too open

The rest of the letters feel a little curmudgeon where their curves terminate into straight verticals. It feels forced/stubborn. There has to be a more natural solution for that.

It has potential to be very excellent. I'd love to see what this looks like EXTRA BOLD.

/w/ feels a little dense given the stencil-like gaps in other letters.

It has potential. To make it really interesting you need to do more with the terminals and joins. Right now it has too much of a super-simple techno/architectural feel, making it more complex with make it much more useful.

Serendipity is a wonderful thing.
Opportunity is knocking at your door.
When things go well, in both your eyes and those of others, you are on the right track and should continue in that direction.
When you come to a fork in the road, take it!

Super-simple is refreshing at times. Also, the design makes for a great æ...

Thanks for your positive feedback guys! I guess there's no escaping this one ;-)

Update coming soon!

So far it's been pretty easy.
Now I suggest you do the ultra bold.
That will be quite hard (most people who do this kind of face don't get heavier than a medium-weight bold), but it will resolve a lot of issues, ultimately save you a lot of hassle, and set the face apart from the crowd.
If you are serious about developing the face, it's best to tackle the ultra now, and interpolate between that and this.

Great tip, thanks Nick.
So far I've been working on making a complete Roman glyph set, almost finished (petite, text and tabular numerals included). Once I get all look and feel parameters right, I'll start with an ultra bold and perhaps small caps.
When all goes well, this could turn out to be quite an extensive family!
Thanks again, back to regular work now ;-)

All righty then. Work is done so I spent some time sketching a possible UltraBold (see 2nd attachment above). What d'ya think? Too 70s?

You can see a lot of issues just looking at the image you posted (not the PDF).

When you go this heavy, a lot of the little details on the lighter weights become magnified exponentially. The awkward looking k, the extremely think negative spaces are too thin, the curves don't feel fluid or natural.

You're ultra is going to need a complete full body makeover, I'm afraid.

...Maybe this is better...? See also 3rd PDF above.

That's a better direction.

Yes, I think your first ultra black was more of a stunt display face, rather than for interpolation.
(But several quite respectable faces have such quirky ultra weights, eg Gill Kayo and Futura Black.)

As it's a semi-stencil, why don't you separate the arm and leg of the k from the stem?

Greetings all!
I've been working quite hard at both regular and ultra black. So far I would like you to comment on the regular. Please check out the 4th PDF above.

(For some reason I can't insert an image here. The site keeps telling me "Could not copy image. Error".)

Use PNG format. No spaces in file name.
Make no wider than 588 pixels to avoid scroll bar.

Another great design, Jean Paul. I second other's opinion, it surely must be developed. Simple, clean and handsome. And Nick's idea is excellent. I'd like to think about this (to begin with thin/black weights) a few months ago.

Some points: (1) your parenthesis are very far away from usual shape. Maybe a simple curve would be better. (2) zero could be more curve on top/bottom parts. (3) W is somewhat heavy. Do you tried to do it with two unlinked pieces? (I mean, a kind of U with inclined stems and a small v inside).

About the ultra black, I also agree with Eliason, you 3rd PDF is much better.

Thanks again Igor!
I've already addressed the parentheses, but not yet updated the PDF. Zero could indeed be more different from /o/, I'll try rounding it more. Good idea about /w/, I'll give it a try.

Hi Jean Paul, just got your e-mail...sorry it's taken so long to post but I've been travelling for the last 3 months. I'll be happy to give your font a crit in a couple of weeks when I'm back in the UK. :)

The Ultra has potential, but the rest is Whatever - sorry.
The good news is you should be able to apply the Ultra's
charming overlap to all the weights.

BTW, PNG is usually overkill, and not as robust as GIF.

hhp

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