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Font Id Help / 'Mining': serif w/ swashes, probably inspired by Goudy/Bookman samples

ironhog

Does anyone have a clue on this one?

That 'g' is Goudy-esque, but I don't know of a swash version of his type.

- Mike Yanega

Probably not a font (i/n).

Andreas

This came off a business card made about 20 years ago. Was done for some biker folks and I would have to believe they went as cheap as possible. (I know them). It could be artwork but they would have had to rob a bank to pay for it....

It looks like painful things have been done to it, as most of the letters seem like their outlines are broken. Was the card mangled, or is this a lousy scan?

- Mike Yanega

Looking at Mac McGrew's book of American Metal Typefaces there is a bold version of Goudy Oldstyle that was designed by Morris Benton between 1916 - 1919 to go with the Goudy-designed typeface. The swash M is a slanted version of what's on your card. The Roman version of Goudy Bold type has the same g and the i's have the same diamond shaped dots. Its 'n' matches the normal n on your card. The swash 'n' doesn't look like anything from the typeface samples in this book. It does resemble Bookman swash (in the version done by Jason Walcott of Jukebox), and that even has a similar M, although the swash elements are not right. I think Jason's version is based on an older design for Bookman than the ITC version.

- Mike Yanega

Jaspert mentions a typeface called Goudytype (ATF 1916) which has ‘a number of swash’. I couldn’t find a good sample of it, though.

Goudytype is shown in the McGrew book, and the M is similar, but not identical. it has only swash capitals, no lower case swash letters.

I looked again at Goudy Bold Italic, the ATF face that has the swash letters. The M is closer to the sample above, but still not identical (the lower curl is bigger than the sample posted), AND it is slanted. It does have a swash lower case, but the tails on the letters, like the m and n, are along the baseline, not below it.

It may be that the original was drawn using Goudy/Bookman samples as 'inspiration'.

- Mike Yanega

Thanks for checking, Mike. I’ll update the thread’s title with your guess.

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