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Helvetica Narrow question

Kimpire

I need to be able to teach a coworker how to input dots below certain letters in a text, but things are complicated by the following facts:

1) He's using a Mac and I'm not;
2) He's using Adobe Indesign, which I don't have;
3) The font we're using is Helvetica Narrow, which I don't have; and
4) We're not in the same city, so I can't show him directly.

So does anybody know if the Helvetica Narrow font has a Combining Dot Below, and how can I teach him to implement it?

If Helvetica Narrow does have a combining dot below (he will have to look it up in the glyph palette in InDesign), he can just type it before or after the letter it goes under, and adjust the kerning between the two glyphs.

He said it didn't appear in the glyph palette. I find that very odd, because I have independent confirmation that Helvetica regular does have the combining dot below. Why would they suddenly leave it out?

He could easily use Helvetica Regular’s dot, given the weight is right. Perhaps it needs a slight squeze.

He actually already did use a dot from (I believe) Arial Narrow or something similar, but the problem is that every time he updates a paragraph's style it changes the dot's font back to Helvetica Narrow.

As to which Helvetica it is, I'm not a font guy (I'm a grammar guy), I don't know, but here's a bit of a sample:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/Kimpire/helvetica_0001.gif

Verdana has a Combining Dot Below

He can create a character style in InDesign and apply it to the dot. Changing the paragraph style shouldn't mess up the dot. Though I guess it could.. Worth a try anyhow!

good luck!

evan

It sounds like you may have moved beyond input by now, but maybe the following will be helpful for future reference:

When I need to help somebody type some obscure character sequence, it's usually easiest to e-mail it to them, either in the body of the message, or (if their email client doesn't like Unicode) in an attachment. They can then copy and paste as needed.

By Unicode convention, a combining diacritic should come immediately after the letter it modifies. If you follow that convention, and you happen to be using a font with proper support for combining diacritics, the diacritic will properly position itself--no kerning required.

The Unicode standard includes a number of pre-composed glyphs with dots beneath. I don't know if any of these are glyphs you need, or if they're included in the font you're using, but it may be worth checking.

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