Dan,
Thanks for the post. Is there a way those of us who don't understand German can order Spatium? I went to their site and gave it the old college try but couldn't find a way.

Chris

Thanks for the plug! And thanks to Peter Reichard for getting me to actually collect my thoughts and put them in ASCII. (Or I should say Unicode...)

hhp

Hmm, good question, Chris. I took a look at the website, and the issue is so new that the site's order form hasn't been updated yet. I emailed Peter, and will let you know how you can place an order.

Thanks Dan, I appreciate your help.

Hrant, CONGRATS dude!

star article in the issue is by Hrant, on the Latinization of Non-Latin scripts and typefaces

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Hrant - post the article, or the main idea

Well, I'd like people to actually buy the issue, so I won't put up a full PDF of it (at least not for a while), but the point of the essay is to explain what Latinization is and where it comes from (and how ancient it is), show exactly what can be good but what is usually bad about it, and conclude with a technical elaboration of how to "channel" it positively in making a multi-script typeface system.

BTW, Dan, I don't know about "star article" - there's a lot of other great stuff in there.
Here's a dump from a PDF of the table of contents:
"
3 Vorwort/Preface
5 Gruppe 11 � Typogra.e ist international
Group 11 � typography is international Peter Reichard
9 Typeface Noni Donald Beekman
10 Latinisierung: Vorbeugung und Heilung
Latinization: Prevention and Cure Hrant H. Papazian
21 Knorr Logotype Peter Reichard
22 Typeface Misou Dirk Uhlenbrock
23 Typeface Rickshaw Dirk Uhlenbrock
24 Der Ursprung der griechischen Buchstaben
Greek Letters Origin Panayiotis Haratzopoulos
29 Typeface Japanese Magma
30 Typeface Partisan East Boris Dworschack
31 Hebr�ische Typogra.e
Hebrew typography Oded Ezer
34 Arabische Typogra.e:
Zwischen der Vergangenheit und der Zukunft
Arabic Typography:
Between the past and the present. Tarek Atrissi
40 Peace Typography Ine Beerten
42 Moscow Streettypography Levasha
44 Typeface Manga Donald Beekman
45 Typeface Fragment Viagra.k
46 Typeface Kamchatka Matt Desmond
47 Typeface Dimitri Typonauten
48 Jewrejskaja Gazeta Peter Reichard
49 Ball of Fame David Borchers & Till Hopstock
50 Typeface Orient Wolfgang Rudolf
51 Mo magazine Toko
52 Chinesische Schrift
Chinese Writing Tanja Huckenbeck
56 Shanghai Typo Impressions Tanja Huckenbeck
66 Shanghai Tanja Huckenbeck
68 Faux Fonts Peter Reichard
70 Paris Typo Impressions Peter Reichard
76 Literatur und Webressourcen
Litrature and Webressources
77 Thankyou
"

hhp

I'd like people to actually buy the issue

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Not free? (like the guys that asking for free fonts - type id)?

Well, as I read the magazine, your article certainly seemed like a good "keynote." It was the most specific thematic, theoretic contribution, and also the longest that wasn't from one of the two editors� I'm really NOT trying to toot your horn too much here, but credit should be given where it is due. I hope that people actually buy the magazine� I don't know what sort of distribution system they have in the works.

I'm already looking forward to issue number 5�

>I'd like people to actually buy the issue <

I am trying to.

An update from Peter:
This week they will process all the online orders and post a news item on Typophile.

hhp

Hello,
like Hrant wrote, we are on the wwork for the online order information. The mag can be ordered from all over the world. You can via paypal.
The cost for the mag is 15 EUR plus 2 EUR for packaging and shipping to Europe or worldwide.

is everyboday programmed from our web programmer will post it here.

best regards
Peter

special thanks to Dan and Hrant

the magazine's sold out right?

The current issue has just come back from the printer; it is not sold out � just not ready for shipping, it seems. I believe that most of the previous issues are sold out, though

Hi, only the 3rd issue is sold out, the newest (issue 4) is not online at the moment, we are working at the moment for the ordering page. please wait some days!

Peter

Hello,

the ordering site (Bestellungen) is now update and you can ordering the magazine. Soon we will have more pictures from the new issue online

Today's German lesson will teach all of you how to order your copies of Spatium quickly and easily�



First, go to http://www.spatium-newsletter.de/index.php
and click the word "Bestellung" in the top nav menu. "Bestellung" means "order"

The current magazine issue is called "Gruppe 11," which means "Group 11." Issue number 2, as well as two t-shirts are also available for purchase. These are really chic, especially the "girly" shirts.

If you just want a copy of the magazine, type a 1 under the "Anzahl" slot to the left of "Magazine Gruppe 11" (under the red "Bestellen"). "Anzahl" means "number," so don't type 2 unless you want two copies�

Then type in your mailing address. "Stra�e/Nr:" means "Street and House Number." The Germans type things in that order (Geisbergstra�e 3), but you can ignore their silly conventions and type in you address the good old american way, as I've done here. "PLZ/Ort" means "Zip Code and Place." "Land" means "Country."

Clicking the "Artikel bestellen" button (which means "order item") will lead to some other magical page, I imagine� I've never ordered anything online from Spatium before, so I don't know what happens next, but it is probably self expanatory. If you get sad because this form is just too confusing, you can e-mail Peter directly by clicking on the "Kontakt" (which means "contact") button in the upper right-hand corner of the screen.

I'm on it

Oh sorry,
the site navigation is only german, we try to make it more international in future ;) but Dan's lesson is very good.

Peter

Dan,
I did what you said filling in my information and even ordered a T-shirt too. Then I clicked on the"Artikel bestellen" button and instead of getting "some other magical page," I got the following text:
"Ihre Bestellung wurde erfolgreich versendet. Sie erhalten per Mail in K�rze von uns Informationen zur Zahlweise.

Lieferung nach Vorkasse!"

Complete with nasty looking exclamation point and all. I was bewildered and there was no other link to push so I am still left out in the "kalte"
Help?

Hey, that's what I got too before this issue came out!
It means you now have to write an article for them. ;->

hhp

LOL!!! Boy, would they be surprised to know that the only German I know is from Mozart Opera's. How many times can I mention Zauberflote in my article?

ChrisL

For the record: they translated my piece - I don't know any German - although I do like to make up German words, especially stuff that ends in "slüt". Don't blame me, blame that Russian figure skater.

hhp

ChrisL, 'Lieferung nach Vorkasse' means you have to pay them first, before you get your very own personal issue of Spatium, delivered to your door step..
( And, they will send you further details on how to pay, via Credit Card, Bank Transfer or else.. )

yes, rest assured, chris,

"Ihre Bestellung wurde erfolgreich versendet. Sie erhalten per Mail in Kürze von uns Informationen zur Zahlweise.

Lieferung nach Vorkasse!"

just means "Your order was successfullt completetd. You will soon receive an e-mail from us with payment information. The goods will be shipped after payment is received!"

German uses more exclamation points than English, they should not be feared. German also uses more commas,more letters per word, extra long words (you can put any number of words together to make a super new word), lots of funny little dots, and this wierd little character that looks like a Greek letter beta�

It might take a few hours for you to receive the e-mail about payment information� its only 9am now in central Europe�

Thanks Dan and David. I will wait for the email--and hope i can read it :-)