It might help us to know why you can't use Requiem.

From what is written, it is clear that Requiem can not be used because sarahcazee needs a “bold or black” text version of it.

Classica and Prestige have a similar pedigree and include hundreds of ligatures and alts.

There is the classical, transitional Roman, Schneider Antiqua, Werner Schneider (Berthold). Light to bold, with non-aligning figures. Lovely waisting forms but not in the Trajan column ethos. A contemporary interpretation of the forms without the perspective distortion of Trajan..

Michael

Requiem & Trajan posses a “chiseled” elegance while Classica and Prestige seems rendered by brush.

The true Trajan forms were first done with Brush and then chiseled, according to Fr. Catich's research and trials... the serif being the cleanup stroke. See The Origin of The Serif . I think the Requiem caps are in part, the bowls, a hybrid of Old Style and Transitional.

Classica and Prestige owe a tremendous debt to the Zapf tradition.

Michael

Thanks for your insight, Michael. You probably don't recall, but I attended your workshop in Toronto and enjoyed it very much. Glad to see you frequenting Typophile.

Also related: Waters Titling.

Did not even think about Waters Titling. Talk about breadth! That is probably what she needs. Good call Stephen! Did she say whether she needed lower case?

You mean I didn't scare you away from letters? :)

Michael

Hmm. Ok. More mud on my face. What about switching to something a little newer and trying a neo-classical? Something like Ambroise. Or Penumbra. And if Water Titling might work, so might Brioso Pro.

Just sort of hanging out on this one Miss Tiffany. Brioso Pro is phenomenal, too bad Adobe did not have their marketing team on top of this one, Robert did a phenomenal job on it. Under appreciated! By the way... Classica and Prestige owe more to the chisel edged pen than the brush. Palatino, Arrighi et. al.

When I took this damn craft up the bible was Edmund Arnold, Ink on Paper... Modern, Old Style, and Transitional. Bringhurst, a true Canadian treasure, confuses me with all the subdivisions! But a better book on typography has never been written. Should be a required read for anybody getting into this field!

Michael

Yep. We consider Bringhurst's book part of the Triumvirate of must reads.

Yep on Brioso too. It is gorgeous.

If you want to see the Triumvirate behind the Triumvirate.. get ahold of Eric Lindegren's ABC of Lettering and Printing Types. Museum Books. Paid 400$ for it 20 years ago, but the internet has devastated the rare book industry, so mine is not worth what I paid for it.

Brioso is what I will remember Robert for. A stunning endeavor!

Michael

Went on a search. I found it here... all 3 volumes for 287$ for anyone interested.

http://www.optosbooks.com/cpCommerce/product.php?p=1967

Michael

BTW, Brioso has a Poster version, which is meant to be used at large sizes and the outlines have some roughness that mimic calligraphy. Have a look at Brioso's specimen booklet (PDF file 2.1MB).

SO FINE. Always thought that was amazing.

I always liked Bauer Text Initials, long before Trajan came along; I've only got an ancient Type1 version, though: