Antonio,
I have a copy of Frutiger's "Signs and Symbols", is this what you mean or is there a different book?

I also have his, "Forms and Counterforms".

ChrisL

Swipe Books in Toronto had copies for sale when i was in there last. They also have the impossible to get Letterror book.
http://www.swipe.com/

not impossible...
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetails?bi=904619665

Hi Chris!
yes they are diferent books.

António

paul hunt
eh he...when I wrote impossible I was refering to is price :-)

António

António -

I do not know whether it is exactly the same book, but Frutiger's "Sinais e Símbolos" is available here in Brasil from Martins Fontes Editora (in Portuguese, of course). I quote from the review:

"Não existem elementos casuais em nosso redor ou dentro de nós, mas toda matéria obedece a uma composição ordenada. Até o traço ou o rabisco mais inocente não pode existir acidentalmente, por puro acaso, mesmo que o observador não reconheça claramente as causas, a origem e o motivo desse "desenho". É a partir de considerações como essas que Adrian Frutiger leva o leitor a reconhecer e julgar com mais facilidade a origem, o sentido e a mensagem dos sinais e símbolos."

Take a look at http://www.martinsfonteseditora.com.br/detalhes.asp?ID=552685 and Boa sorte!

Ronald Kyrmse
ronald.info.ms

António, this blog post talks about the book and has two or three images from it.

$250 seems like a fair price. If it is beyond your means, perhaps you should go in with a few colleagues and share the cost and the access.

Also, several years ago I posted a couple of images form the book, as examples of weighting-up type. If you search Typophile, I'm sure you can come up with them.

There is also interlibrary loan.

There is also interlibrary loan.

Eben, I know it works in the United States public library system... but international libraries may be a different matter. Here are two links which may be helpful to someone living in Portugal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlibrary_loan

http://www.worldcat.org/