it depends on whom you ask and in what regards you are meaning.

The moderators are pretty well respected.

Not Hrant.

—
Joe Clark
http://joeclark.org/

It could also be solved in another way. Like the rankings of ATP, or rather ArtFacts. Combine number of typeface releases (and the general consensus regarding the quality of each release) with years in the business. Add status within organizations such as ATypI/SoTA etc., articles, papers, lectures, exposure in correct design magazines. Different foundries will generate different amount of points (so a foundry ranking is also necessary). Of course context will matter, custom type for an international fashion magazine will beat custom type for a provincial news paper. Unless the latter is given proper exposure in a Correct design magazine. In contrast another factor will be numbers of licenses sold. Regarding the quality aspect this factor won't be as big as some other factors, but making fonts that sell well generates a certain respect within the community, so why not.

I would certainly think John Hudson for his generous use of his knowledge and willingness to share with the rest of the community would be highly respected.

ChrisL

What is the point of this thread?

Since I adopted the current somewhat imperious-looking avatar, I find more people referring to me as Mr. Shinn, rather than Nick.

Don't know about Typophile, but on another forum I recently got the ultimate accolade ("You saved my life."). Does that make me 'most well respected'? Let's hope so…

. . .
Bert Vanderveen BNO
(Thats Mr. Vanderveen for you)

> What is the point of this thread?

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

I think.

R

The question of this thread invites what are called invidious comparisons--comparisons that are likely give needless offense to some individuals; and this has already started. Though no doubt well-intentioned, it is not, in my opinion, a good idea.

My immediate thought when I saw this thread title, was that just about every poster is respected, I'm sure this is one of the most "civilised" places on the interwebnetthing.

Richard

... just about every poster is respected ...

Yep. And despite an earlier remark (which one hopes was made in jest only), that definitely includes Hrant.

Though no doubt well-intentioned...

Maybe. But do well-intentioned people hide their identity?

Just wondering...

The question of this thread invites what are called invidious comparisons—comparisons that are likely give needless offense to some individuals; and this has already started. Though no doubt well-intentioned, it is not, in my opinion, a good idea.

My sentiments exactly. Even when we disagree we *try* to do so with respect.

I have tremendous respect for the amount of typographic knowledge members of this forum possess, and also for those who create type. Without them I wouldn't be in business.

>Maybe. But do well-intentioned people hide their identity?

True, Müller may reveal himself to be Nelson Mandela and trump the lot of you ;-)

I keep a list of the notable people I have read in typophile but it would be distasteful to reveal it.

Héctor

All I know about respect is this:

You know I am Heaven bound but I'm surely hell bent
On getting the job done like I know I should,
Get the job done like my momma told me to.
Only one thing can remember she said,
You gotta earn all of your respect.

And I don't care what race or what colour or what creed
All that shit don't bother me,
Only one thing that you should not forget,
You gotta treat yo' momma with respect.
--from Treat Yo' Momma, by the John Butler Trio

The best way to judge the respect level of any forum is to read it. See which members' advice is heeded, and which is contradicted. See the ones who get into (or worse, cause) flame wars, and which ones just walk away.

Truth is, there are very few regulars here that I don't respect highly, and some of the students even gain my respect by asking intelligent questions and showing that they are seeking to learn from the wisdom of the others.

> I find more people referring to me as Mr. Shinn, rather than Nick.

I've recently addressed Nick as Mr. Shinn. Why? Well, lots of kids in my community refer to adults by first name. Growing up, that's the last thing I'd have ever done. Mister was a sign of respect. It took a long time to get to be a dad, and by God, I've earned the rite to be referred to as Mr. Koppa, and I don't care what the rest of the parents say. I'll admit that Nick's avatar does command some automatic respect, and that may be what triggered my impulse. But I did have a pirhanna named Mr. Chin when I was in college, which is also a contributing factor. Nevertheless, having been a member posting infrequently for only a couple months, I find Mr. Shinn to be respected, especially in light of his recent unprofessional comment about the Holiday Inn logo. And Mr. Vanderveen. I also like Mr. (Gerald) Lange. And just about everybody else, really. It's fun to be connected to everyone.

Ricardo, on the link you post (for Müller's profile), is the title screwed up (on account of the ü, which Super Duty must not have)? When I load the page (in OmniWeb and Safari on Mac OS X), the profile title is simply M.

Steve, try clicking directly on Müller's name at the top of this thread -- that's what I was linking to. I can see his name just fine on my dinosaur Mac, but then again it's not displaying in Super Duty. I'll check from work tomorrow and let you know.

When I click on Müller's name, I only see the letter c in all the fields.

ChrisL

Worse things happen at 'c' or maybe M's a coder?

He should get a c++ then for effort :-)

ChrisL

Without dismissing the idea that it might potentially be good to know such a thing - the question I have is. Why do you want to know? Hopefully it's not so you can pull your fore lock in the correct directions!

My suggestion is use google's site search ( advanced feature ) to find out what's been written on topics of interest to you. Then read read read those older threads. Then you can draw your own conclusions.

Ricardo, on the link you post (for Müller’s profile), is the title screwed up (on account of the ü, which Super Duty must not have)?

Super Duty has the umlaut, however I am going to assume that sIFR is having trouble rendering the character. This should change soon with the new upgrades in Flash.

So when do we get the next new titling font for the pages here? We've had Beorcana (which I really like) and Super Duty (not so much)... what's next?

commonly heard question among Typophiles: "But, will I be still be well respected in the morning?"

(bud-ump-bump)

R

Steve: Ricardo, on the link you post (for Müller’s profile), is the title screwed up...?

Zara: Super Duty has the umlaut...

Thanks for the info, Zara. Like Steve, I only see the initial M when I am using OS X and Safari.

Dezcom: When I click on Müller’s name, I only see the letter c in all the fields

Exactly -- "c" what I mean, Chris? ;-)

You get a c-note for that one, Ricardo :-)

ChrisL

Jeez, Chris, when will the puns CCCCccc?

As for me... I don't get no respect...

C ya later, Rodney :-)

ChrisL

C, c, c Señor.

 Or after a long while without puns, we’ll say “A, B, … … …”
—Joel

Typophile Respect Survey

1. Where do you live?
A. Europe.
B. East Coast USA.
C. West Coast USA.
D. Canada or elsewhere.

2. What do you do?
A. Type designer.
B. Graphic designer.
C. Work for a large multinational company.
D. Foundry person.

3. Do you own a computer?
A. No I own a pencil.
B. Yes a high end Mac.
C. Yes a high-end PC based gamer rig.
D. Yes a Linux box I built myself.

4. How often do you post to Typophile?
A. I limit myself to one or two carefully considered lengthy posts each week.
B. I regularly top the leader-board in posts and puns.
C. I drop in every now and then with pearls of wisdom.
D. Whenever there’s an opportunity for self promotion.

5. How do you normally dress?
A. Black polo-neck, wire rim glasses, “did I mention I’m bald?”
B. Typophile T-shirt, khaki shorts.
C. Helvetica T-shirt, blue jeans.
D. Business casual.

6. When at TypeCon or ATypI do you?
A. Hang out in the bar with your entourage .
B. Spend the whole event in your hotel room working on an important font project.
C. Attend talks.
D. Shop-lift from the vendor area.

Give yourself 3 points for every A, 2 points for every B, 1 point for every C, and zero for every D.

So how did you score?

15 to 18 - R E S P E C T !
9 to 14 – respect
4 to 13 – no respect
0 to 3 – what are you doing here?

Hilarious, Si! ‹8°D

Si,
I resemble that remark :-)

ChrisL

Very Nice Si!

That's so funny.

Yeah — in spite of the fact that I scored 2 1/2 (I chose to take a half-point because I wear blue-jeans but don't own an Helvetica T-Shirt).

1. Where do you live?
A. Europe.
B. East Coast USA.
C. West Coast USA.
D. Canada or elsewhere.

Hmmm... maybe I should rethink my plan to move to the Pacific Northwest after graduation...

ROFL! Brilliant, Si -- you obviously have too much time on your hands....

(but, um, should it be 4-8 = no respect and 9-13 = respect. And should there be points for noting stuff like this?)

Editors.
:-)

ChrisL

Editors.
You mean … like in Q2, E = Editors; minus -3? ;°)

LOL!

ChrisL

Not Hrant.

Speak for yourself. I often found Hrant pretty insightful and non-pandering.

As for this thread, it's kinda pointless. It's like asking "Who's the worst President?" (okay, too easy -- maybe that's a bad example)

"...like asking “Who’s the worst President?” (okay, too easy..."

:-D

ChrisL

”...like asking “Who’s the worst President?” (okay, too easy...”

Hey, he just wanted to get into the history books.

One way or the other.

Editors.

Ah, Chris, I'm sure you meant "Editors!"

;-)

Douh!

ChrisL