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Thoughts on Teimer?

MHSmith

Not to start another Best Legible Didone thread, but:

Looking for a substitute for Bodoni MT Book in a 170-year-old scholarly journal. As you know Bodoni (even MT Book) is not ideally legible in small print on white and slightly glossy paper. I was wondering about Teimer Antiqua. Only thing that worries me is that it would have to be set even smaller, at least nominally (9?) if it isn't to take up too much space compared with MT Bodoni 10/12, on 12 cm lines. And wide letterforms might otherwise produce awkward spacing or word division, and so on.

I have also toyed with the usual distinguished substitutes, Storm's Walbaum, Hoefler's Didot, Licko's Filosofia, even Paperback from House Industries, which is actually an excellent didone, despite its understated name. Love them all but in each one my editorial board finds something just too special for academic work (especially in the figures), or just too different from the usual face. Kepler, conversely, is certainly well crafted and well behaved but what's the use of having a didone if it looks so dull? (I admit I haven't actually seen a good print-out of it).

Other tempting possibilities, with somewhat similar proportions and none of the offending peculiarities, but further removed : FB Whitman, FF Scala, Utopia.

Teimer could make everyone happy, since it's actually even closer than Bodoni to the Didot we started off with in 1839. So does anyone here have any experience setting text in Teimer, or any further suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Don't forget about ITC Bodoni, the most comprehensive digitization of Bodoni with 6, 12, and 72 pt. cuts.

Dude, I can understand something goes wrong, but 15 posts!? We really don't need the extra work. Please be a little more careful next time. :^/

Excuse me for my reply sounding more annoyed than I actually was. I should've known better. Please accept my apologies.

Yes, ITC is another one I tried: a serious possibility, but in 10 points, compared with MT book I find the 6 pt cut too wide and thick (fine for footnotes though), and the 12 pt a wee bit too narrow and contrasted...

P.S. I should have mentioned my current favourite is Teimer's Antiqua Light (lower contrast than Regular).

Sorry again, Yves, and thanks for cleaning up the mess. (But editing does have one or two strange side-effects.) And as long as your photo keeps smiling, you can't sound too cross.

There's also Frutiger's Iridium. A didone built for photocomp (so it can handle digital).

Any modern face is going to become unreadable below a certain pointsize. Is it necessary to have a modern, just because it's an old journal? Couldn't you switch to something more Scotch, which still looks "olde fashioned" but isn't so harsh? Look at some of the faces FontBureau have for newspaper setting.

Carl, many thanks for Iridium, I had never looked at it closely, it really is interesting. Pity it lacks proper small caps, but very tempting all the same.

Actually I would like to find something reasonably close to a didone BUT more contemporary and legible, so as to lure the more traditional members of the board away from ye anciente looke without their even noticing. As you know, legibility/readability is difficult to explain, as soon as you mention it people start looking hard at the letters instead of just reading them. If I could choose off my own head, I would just as well go for something completely different, like say... Beorcana. Cheers!

Marc

Storm Walbaum. It has the small caps you desire and is a text cut.

A few other options that are more removed would be Mercury or Chronicle from Hoefler & Frere-Jones.

Thanks for all your suggestions (Chronicle also looks good). So it seems Teimer isn't in the top ten yet... maybe a further reason to try it out. Cheers.

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