Nah,

have a phone, have an i, didn’t especially want or need them together, besides who buys v.1 of new technology?

—N

Who? 1 million people.

I have a phone. It hangs on the wall, with a cord that connect it to the world. It is the modern kind ... has buttons instead of a dial.

Why, is there something newer available now?

I’m not rushing to buy it either

1) ATT is crap
2) no way to replace the battery w/o sending it in
3) I don’t like the idea of glass as opposed to buttons - both because of smudging and also not being able to feel the buttons. I prefer the compactness of flip phones too.
4) let them work out the bugs first

but was curious about my fellow typophiles.

Post emac, Apple has had the most horrible quality control. Ever.
I’ll probably buy an iphone in a year or two. Actually I hope blackberry appropriates the touch screen awesome two finger thing. I’d buy one of those.

http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/

I’ll buy a second gen phone. And immediately use DVD Jon’s activation cracks to run it on a reasonably priced network that isn’t happy to cooperate with the government’s illegal wiretapping schemes.

>I have a phone. It hangs on the wall, with a cord that connect it to the world. It is the modern kind ... has buttons instead of a dial.

In the future all phones will have cords...

Sorry to be such a geek ;-)

> In the future all phones will have cords...

Duh. All the other phones can carry secret computer and network-destroying viruses that will make mankind susceptible to devastating attacks from cybernetic beings. Or something like that… 8-D

But isn’t Galactica set in the present, or even the past? Once the remnants of the 12 colonies find us on Earth, we can give them the iPhone. I’m sure that it could even win over the Cylons. After they interface with it, they would certainly loose all interest in dominating humanity.

BTW, this geek talk is SO relevant. Why? Because Battlestar Galactica is sold over iTunes, which means that you can watch in on your iPhone! Now if we could just get Doctor Who in the iTunes Store…

Now if we could just get Doctor Who in the iTunes Store…

I just get the torrents. I feel justified since Doctor Who is paid for in part by the immoral expropriation of private funds. And because I’m too geeky to wait three months for the Daleks to get to the states.

Thanks Dan, I feel slightly less geeky with you around ;-)

May the force be with you...

I don’t have a cellphone. It’s a status symbol. I mean not having one.
“You don’t need to be calling me. If I need you, I’ll call you.”

hhp

They say Saint Steve didn’t previously own a mobile phone - If he worked for another comapany he might be waiting for v2 too?

I prefer having a cellphone and just ignoring calls that I don’t feel like taking. But I’m a bit of a bitchy queen.

They’re only making one more season of BSG so iphone contact percentage is going to be very high in the coming months!
Do you thing v2 of the iphone will have sonic screwdriver capabilities? Or can call through time?

“I don’t have a cellphone. It’s a status symbol. I mean not having one.”

I bet you miss out on fun times because no one can ever get ahold of you!

Call through time only works if Apple can find a TARDIS, and seeing as how the Doctor has the last one, that’s unlikely. And I think someone else already got the sonic screwdriver tech license.

But has anyone else noticed that the lack of a precision stylus for the iPhone would make it a pain to use for a lot of vector drawing purposes?

> ignoring calls

That just makes people dislike you [more].

> I bet you miss out on fun times

DOES NOT COMPUTE

hhp

But has anyone else noticed that the lack of a precision stylus for the iPhone would make it a pain to use for a lot of vector drawing purposes?

not to mention accurate typing.

I have played with a couple that are floating around our office [Mr Benson was our first buyer], and my initial concern was typing. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I could tap away on the keyboard with great ease and quickness, with not one mistake.

Oh, and BTW - I heart Battlestar.

>Oh, and BTW - I heart Battlestar.

So say we all ;-)

Well safe to say as a Canadian I won’t be getting one for a while. My friends in the US who have them love it.

I will admit, I do not like cell phones, but I own one simply because my monthly cell bill is less than 1/2 the cost of just having a land line, never mind calling long distance. cell = $42 with features, landline = $80 just to have it plus $1.25/min long distance.

Now, CB radio’s that’s were it’s really at.

Some blurb on the two year TCO of iPhone vs similar AT&T plans - http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total...

Patty,

I do have a cell phone - but honestly, it is only used in the car...and only if I’m not the one driving.

AT&T where we are has very little power, I can’t even use an AT&T cell phone from my home - no signal.

As for calls on a “digital” situation - I love SKYPE. I call my family in England - and it’s crystal clear. My stepson calls his friend in Korea on it - complete with cameras to they can see each other and have a grand conversation.

There is always new technology around the corner - but I really feel Apple has hurt themselves on this one. By keeping it exclusive to AT&T cuts a huge hunk out of the market - and by informing us that this is “first generation” with new improvements to be sold shortly - well, I don’t want to be the first kid on the block anymore.

I’m a big fan of Apple - but this product just isn’t for me.

And on a personal note to jselig - check with your phone company. Mine offered me a great savings by combining Internet with Cable TV with phone - and they threw in all the long distance phone call making I can handle to the USA mainland — which j’adore!

I need a phone that’s more sling-stone shaped so I’m waiting. It’s cool though that people will line up around the block to see it, buy it, and talk about it while other companies have to chase down, rope, brand and serial number customers just to get them to “try it.” 6 months after vista, e.g. most people at MS were/are still resisting their own product, and only about 7% of users have moved on to it.

Cheers!

>7% of users have moved on to it.

Sad I know, that’s only 2% more total users than MacOS :-(

Sad I know...

Depends on how you look at it. It could just be viewed as proof that Windows XP isn’t as bad as a lot of the anti-Microsoft crowd like to claim. My mom is still steaming along on Windows 2000 without any trouble.

NPR had a story today about a firm called iFixit that has already disassembled an iPhone and posted photos of its innards. And they’re apparently not that far away from an effective ’hacktivation,’ allowing the phone to be used on different networks.

Supporters of font DRM take note - DVD Jon, hacktivation and NPR stories await if your dreams ever become reality. :-)

I’ve been on vacation since last week, but I stopped at an Apple store in DesMoines last Friday and got one. I like it a lot. Typing is fine. The screen is beautiful. It’s not as cool when AT&T coverage and WiFi is lacking (unsurprisingly). The reason I decided to get it was so I could carry fewer gadgets without losing their usefulness. Instead of having to choose between carrying a cell phone, a Palm Pilot, an iPod, a pocket camera, and a note pad, I can have all five in one tiny device. Having the Internet too is icing on the cake.

(Posted from my iPhone.)

It makes a handy alarm clock, too.

I too just joined the million. It’s the best internet experience I’ve ever had with a phone. Web pages appear in their true (albeit dezoomed) form, not “mobile” form, and you can actually read, see photos at full res, and input text. Yeah, surfing the web while waiting for the train is a geektastic thing to do. But it’s impressive to meet so many self-professed non-geeks who see the fun and value in it as well.

I grabbed one the day it came out, and I absolutely love it, warts and all. It’s by far the best mobile user experience I’ve seen. Its light years ahead of an industry who still believes that the way to sell more devices is to pack them with even more features that users will never find or use.

Despite its criticisms, Apple’s entry into the mobile market will transform the industry - of that I’m convinced. Suddenly the conversation has changed from form factor to user experience, and that’s long overdue.

I’m trying to figure out how to create an iPhone-optimized Typophile - something like this - just for kicks. How are you guys accessing Typophile with iPhone? Just browsing directly via Safari, or pulling in threads via RSS?

Direct to typophile.com/forum and my Track page. Lack of Flash support makes Typophile’s front page useless of course.

Isn’t the iPhone’s web popup menu form interface brilliant?

“Sad I know, that’s only 2% more total users than MacOS :-(“

I know, I’m sorry you’re so sad, but Apple is making $100 per iPhone user, and MS spent $35k per Vista user :(...

Re Galactica: The ’humans’ used to have wireless phones, but went back to wired ones during the First Cylone War, because the Cylons could intercept wireless conversations. (Useless C-lore, I know).

Re iPhone (I read Apple calls it iPhone, not THE iPhone): Apparantly Apple plans to service the bigger European countries first, so we Dutch will have to wait. And even then — the European version of iPhone will be more advanced than the US-version (no oldfashioned EDGE overhere, but UMTS) and probably in need of better energy management, so I’ll wait for the kinks that will cause to be ironed out.
But yes, I do want one.

Bert Vanderveen BNO

>The ’humans’ used to have wireless phones, but went back to wired ones during the First Cylone War, because the Cylons could intercept wireless conversations.

There’s a probably a lesson there.

>I know, I’m sorry you’re so sad, but Apple is making $100 per iPhone user, and MS spent $35k per Vista user :(...

Blub. Poor Microsoft.

An apple + skype partnership would have been epic.

I just joined the club. I couldnt hold out any longer ;)

i was thinking an apple+skyy partnership would really be something.

Maybe Apple+Skip?

I’ve been a big ol’ pessimist on these, as most of the phones here in Japan do most of the things that the iPhone offers already (though less eloquently). My new pal Jona’s been on tour over here this week and has been blogging/twittering non-stop (http://www.teamyacht.com/) via his iPhone, hitting up wi-fi signals left and right, despite a lack of phone service abroad.

Dragging a laptop around Tokyo looking for a signal sucks, and as you get away from the urban center, you are pretty much screwed to find a decent free signal. While I’ll be forced to wait a while to hook one up, I’m pretty convinced. But then again, ATT isn’t on this side of the Pacific...

re: flash support

Rumors have it that we’ll see flash support in the near future on iPhone. If so, that will be a good day for typophile.

Now that I’ve had mine a week, I can’t imagine being without it. I absolutely love it. It’s one of those devices that simply changes the game.

Crap. I had totally written off the need to get an iPhone since I have a very capable Samsung Blackjack (see my user experience critique of the Blackjack at Idlemode.) But, having hefted one, and resized a web page and watched the screen scale in real-time... I’m now eating my words and jonesing for one badly.

It really does change the game. Windows Mobile — with it’s chunky pixel icons, its bitmap fonts, and it’s lack of transitions — by comparison feels about 10 years old when you’re holding an iPhone in your hand. I feel sorry for anyone who has to make calls on a RAZR.

Back to reality for a second... I think I’m still committed to waiting for the second gen iPhone when it’s on a real (3G) network and when I can get more storage for my $599.

> its bitmap fonts

Yeah, danm bitmap fonts - as if screens are
still made of pixels or something - sheesh!

hhp

I was hoping not to go into a rendering discussion... There’s a vast difference between fonts cut for one size versus type that is designed to work at any size (both happen to be presented in pixels, but calling them bitmaps is my way of trashing old tech).

And I was being flip with my RAZR comment... I’m alluding to the recent statistic indicating North Americans and Europeans are likely to replace their handset every 18 months or less.

> I was hoping not to go into a rendering discussion...

Yeah, I wouldn’t either if I were you.

hhp