Hey Chaps,
Came across some cool old Helvetica specimens, thought I would post them for people to see...
These are just the first lot, Ill be going through a box of more stuff to photograph
http://www.experimenta.co.nz/Helvetica.html
Enjoy
Duncan
Hey Chaps,
Came across some cool old Helvetica specimens, thought I would post them for people to see...
These are just the first lot, Ill be going through a box of more stuff to photograph
http://www.experimenta.co.nz/Helvetica.html
Enjoy
Duncan
Some weeks ago it was the 50th birthday of Helvetica. A lot of very famous type designers were there and agreed that the original form of the Helvetica medium (the Haas Helvetica) was really missing because of a poor digitalization. It's kinda interesting because you can easly find some old letraset of this Haas Helvetica and I do own a lot of them. There are some little differences between the Haas and the Lynotype version like the non parallelism of the endings, a better lowercase a bowl and a lot of other detalis that makes it look better than the actual one. I wanted to digitalize it by myself but for the moment I don't have the time and the experience to do so. I hope someday the Haas Helvetica medium will come back!
Thanks for sharing this, Duncan. There's a lot of Helvetica bashing going on on this site & although I have to admit it's probably the most common & overused font, I'm still a big fan. It's been around for 50 years & there has to be a reason for that... After 50 years it still doesn't look one bit outdated & you just have to admire its neutral appearance. Sure, it might be a little "misused" in terms of an easy answer for any kind of design, but that's exactly where its beauty lies; it càn't really be misused in any design because it's so universal. Great font, great link!
Duncan,
would you like to add some pictures of lead Helvetica, Folio and/or Walbaum?
The standard of lead what was and is used by the foundries:
5-6 Sn
28-29 Sb
But Monotype used less Antimon:
8,5-9,5 Sn
18,5-19,5 Sb
And therefore Monotype types look "cheap".
Sn (Stannum) Zinn
Sb (Stibium) Antimon
Pb (Plumbum) Lead
So the Walbaum of Berthold from 1922 looks much more better the Monotype one does:

And D. Stempel AG used more Antimon for Helvetica (and Lithographia) to make it harder and more metallic looking:

Georg
This is in response to kuroneko – I too personally believe that the initial cut of Die Neue Haas Grotesk by Max Miedinger has (or had) a certain charm that the following designs simply failed to carry, for whatever reason – technical or otherwise.
Here’s a compilation of the letter pair “ca” of Helveticas I’ve come across and spent some time examining. Please note that I haven’t included versions of Monotype Imaging (CG Triumvirate), ParaType (Pragmatica), Bitstream (Swiss 721) and many many more. Corrections/modifications/additions welcome!
To me, Christian Schwartz’ Haas Neue Grotesk is the hottest thing ever, which TOO is now controlled by Linotype.
RG

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