i guess ORF was first ;) i cant remember them having another one.

offtopic: where from zurich are you? you have email-contact disabled in your profile, i wanted to ask by mail. im living in hottingen ;)

– The ORF-logo used to be red and white, too, wasn’t it?
Besides, I’m living in «Westside», two blocks from the «Abaton» cinema. And for the rest of the world: Zürich is such a great place.

Florian:
Zürich is such a great place.

I've only visited the city a few times, but would be willing to move there tomorrow. Perhaps when I'm retired.