guys

And of course, women with balls :-)

what about Peignot ? Pretty french. There's also Didot and an old typophile topic here . Also I vaguely remember somone talking about irregular hand-drawn all cap sans from old french movies which look cool but maybe someone else can help out
--N

What's the film about?
What does the film look/feel like?
Who's supposed to see it?
What does "mouchette" mean, small fly?

hhp

1)
Mouchette is a young teenager living in the tough country. Her mother is going to die, and her father does not take care of her. Mouchette does not manage to express her rebellion against the humiliations she undergoes. One night, in the wood, she meets Arsene. Arsene is the poacher of the village. He thinks he has just killed Mathieu, the rural policeman. He tries to use Mouchette to build an alibi.

2)
I haven't seen the film yet, I really should before I design this flyer, but we just locked the film the other day. But its a black and white film by french director Robert Bresson. http://imdb.com/title/tt0061996/ should tell you more.

3)
I am one of the programmers for a film series in Austin. We show classic films in 35mm on the UT campus. Basically just students and cinophiles come to the movies.

4)
Mouchette is a young teenager living in the tough country.

Thinking too literally here. The movie isn't about French identity.

Well, I'm not looking for a french calligraphy font, but I like Pignot and Didot, I think a font like one of those will be good, unfortunately I don't have them yet.

Bodoni's not too far away, I'm pretty sure you'd have something like this. But check out this it might give you some good ideas

Ah, yeah, Bodoni is nice.

Carl - that's *so* bang on.

Why don't you try to chanel Mouchette's emotions rather than the accident of her nationality?

*chanel very nice :)

I haven't seen the movie yet, and rather than ask for emotionally confused and distraught fonts I thought I would ask about some frenchy ones.

This seems to be the film's original poster. Maybe you could try something like PL Modern Heavy Condensed.

- Lex

Really nice match on that original poster. I had found that, but none of my fonts matched.

but gee bodoni's close, especially Bodoni Poster Compressed

I agree with Carl that one shouldn't be too literal. On the other hand, I'm sure he agrees with me that typefaces do have associations, and it is a French movie (and the character isn't French by "accident") so it's a bonus if the font has something French about it. All this means that the French angle should be just another factor, and not anything central. But since there are so many fonts out there, it is a nice way to narrow things down.

Considering the movie seems to be a dark but human tale, I think Peignot is too playful (although the youth angle might make it click) and Didot/Bodoni is too cold. Just mentioning two things from the top of my head: Beorcana (one of its superb dark weights) or ITC Mendoza.

hhp

Kent, one more time, without the smiley emoticon: Typophile is a mixed forum (note presence of Miss Tiffany and Pattyfab in the frequent poster sidebar), so the use of the masculine "guys" is not appropriate.

These days you can call girls "guys" (in the plural only) - I do on occasion - and some of them actually seem to prefer it.

hhp

Yeah, uh, I by no means meant to imply that only males should answer my request for help.

definition #2 from dictionary.com . Usually, guys. Informal. persons of either sex; people: Could one of you guys help me with this?

Sorry if you got some misogynistic vibe from it.

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/antique-olive/

Nearly contemporary and French maybe Nord weight?

Tim

Mouchette was released in 1967 at the peak of the French New Wave. For that period, your best text face is Vendome, used for heads in all the hot paperbacks the French read at the time. If you want an earlier French look, FF Acanthus or Andrade from MyFonts are very authentic. If you want late 19th century, ITC Bodoni Twelve serves very well. Peignot, however, is too specific, Parisian, and touristy, so avoid that choice. And Antique Olive is appropriate to nothing here--ugh! The original poster shows a crude block display face, which can be found at any of the free font sites, but you still need a proper text face, and for that, think of what would go with the world of cinema-going at that time--Vendome.

Paris?

The film is set in rural France, it is a grim, miserable and ugly life for a 14 year old girl – it isn't fashionable.

Tim

{Edit: A little judicious editing has rendered some of this a non-sequitur}

And of course you can't go wrong here

>And Antique Olive is appropriate to nothing here—ugh!

Shooting back ;)
Ever seen "dark" 60s movies from France?
I can imagine using Antique Nord for the poster, much more than the typical vibrant fonts people connect with France, especially when they are located on other side of the ocean.

I am not offended when someone uses "guys," to refer to a group which might include me. It is a non-issue and I'd hope not worth debating. Maybe I'm not feminine enough. :^/

Kent, I realize the use of "guys" as gender-neutral is becoming common practice, with no misogynist intent. Tiffany, it's a feminist issue, not about femininity. The use of "guys" is no different than the usage of "he" as a generic personal pronoun (as in, "when the typographer buys a new typeface, he should read the EULA") or the use of the suffix "-man" in words like chairman. It's a mark of the creeping masculinization of social space.

When my girls were teens they would address their girl friends as 'hey you guys.'

But so far 'dude' is safe :)

Nick, you're hallucinating. Try calling a group of females "girls", or "women", or "ladies" (or "maams"?) in a casual environment and see what reactions you get... Stick to feeling offended by real attacks, preferably on middle-aged Anglo males. If you don't happen to be exposed to enough of that in your environment to get your fill, try traveling.

hhp

Right, I meant feminist, Nick. Is it really masculinization or neutralization? There are far worse ways for people to refer to a group which could insult me and other women. I guess I just try not to let the small things bother me.

Well, I'm just one of those old-fashioned middle-aged Anglo-male feminists.
If you dolls (Kent, Hrant, Bill, Tiff, etc.) are cool with everybody being a guy, so be it.

Regardless guys and dolls, thanks for all the constructive suggestions about fonts.

I'm more than likely using atleast one of the ones suggested here.

Depending on how dramatic the film is (I actually own a DVD of it but haven't got round to watching it yet), how about Excoffon's Banco or Choc? Just a French guy's opinion (who had to import this French film from the US!)

Hi
I think you should try Vendome (see http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/vendome/) : it's typically French, released roughly at the same time, and with a lot of literary connotations which are quite appropriate for Bresson's movies — "Mouchette" is from a novel by Bernanos, after all.

BTW, if you (ever) need a texty companion to Vendome, try Meridien.

hhp