Did they become part of Deberny et Peignot?

More info could be found here;

http://ellie.rit.edu:1213/dphist1.htm

Jean Francois Porchez migh be able to supply you with further info? I'm sure he has a good overview of the French type industry?!

http://www.typofonderie.com/

Thanks for the info, I'll try to post an old ad showcasing some of the fonts I'm looking for. Possibly you guys might be able to direct me somewhere else...

The firm of Laurent & Deberny derives from the foundry of Gillé. Alexandre de Berny bought out the foundry of his partner Laurent in 1840, and ran a business as Laurent & Deberny, or Deberny & Cie. In 1923 the foundry was merged with that of Georges Peignot and his son Charles, forming Deberny & Peignot. Specimen des Divers Types de la Fonderie Laurent et Deberny is a hard to get type specimen from that time. You could check out Fonthaus.com for fonts that might be similar to what you are looking for..

@ Dan
All matrizes from Deberny et Peignot were overtaken by D. Stempel

http://www.schriftenservice-d-stempel.de/index.html

Georg

Preußisches Bleisatz-Magazin

Yes, I know that, of course ;-) My question was just whether or not this Deberny was the Deberny that later became the Deberny in Deberny et Peignot.

There are very few Deberny et Peignot typefaces available in digital format. Auriol, Cochin/Nicolas Cochin, Peignot, and BiFur come to minda, as well as almost all of the typefaces that Adrian Frutiger drew for them (especially Univers!). Otherwise, it can be tricky.

"Originally the leading nineteenth century typefoundry Peignot (of Gustave Peignot). On his death, his son Georges Peignot took it over. Georges’ son Charles took it over when Georges and his three brothers were all killed in the First World War. It became Deberny & Peignot in 1923 when the Laurent & Deberny foundry was purchased. From then until c1960 Charles Peignot directed the creation of a series of truly original designs. Starting in the late fifties, the company prepared the fonts for Lumitype, European Photon. In the sixties, Charles Peignot invested heavily in Lumitype, which used up some of the money to buy control of Deberny & Peignot, and let Charles go. It was closed in 1979, at which time the designs passed to Haas."

Further Details
Deberny & Peignot
18 rue Ferrus
Paris XIV
France

Ceased to exist: This foundry is no longer producing fonts.

In 1985, Linotype took over of the type division of D. Stempel AG. In connection with the liquidation of D. Stempel AG, Stempel's shares in the Haas’sche foundry were acquired by Linotype (see http://www.linotype.com/49-14026/1973-1989.html).

There is an article about the history of Deberny et Peignot in the most recent version of the Linotype Matrix, which was written by John D. Berry (http://www.linotype.com/2720/linotypematrixvol4no2.html).

Most of what typefaces from Deberny et Peignot there are to be found in digital format are in the Linotype Library (http://www.linotype.com).

The biggest exception that comes to mind is BiFur, of which P22 has a version (http://www.p22.com/ihof/bifurset.html).

Here's the ad that got me interested of some of the fonts, I know there are many similiar font out there that someone might direct me to?

http://www.mlvr.com/laurentetdeberny.gif

WOW!!!

Those are crazy!

These all look like engravings. They were probably used only on plates or for gravure work. Some may have just been logotypes and not complete typefaces.

ChrisL

I think I'm in love.

Here Tiff, sing this:

http://www.theromantic.com/lovesongs/iminlovewithawonderfulguy.htm

ChrisL

I'm with you, Tiff, they're exquisite.

I don't get the impression that they might be just logos. They seem to consistent for not being fully developed typefaces...

Dez, that is excellent!!

I'm as curious as Max.

While I agree that they are more than likely copperplate engravings (or woodcut, I've seen some very detailed woodcut engravings), I think this is something that was probably produced in a way that could be reproduced. I'd be interested in more history about it.

In terms of text faces, the Peignot take-over is the worst thing that happened to the distinguished Deberny lineage. For one, the singular contribution of Tuleu, to me the climax of French text face design, is all but forgotten now.

hhp

Sample?

Get the Typophile boys to fix the search.
Like the old Prego pasta sauce slogan sez: IT'S IN THERE!

hhp

Is this it?

thread: http://www.typophile.com/node/12426
link: http://www.themicrofoundry.com/other/Tuleu/NGravure.gif

No, that's "just" an RdR-style font (concerning which
I was pointing out the really amazing style of quotes).

hhp

:^( Crud. I still use the favelet that Grant created occasionally. I was hoping it worked.

Those examples are GORGEOUS. Its amazing how many great undigitized samples still exist out there.

I once went to a very old printer's shop who for generations had done bank stationary, notes, bonds, certificates, etc. While in the back room, I notices stacks of old litho stones in the corner. On the stones were the most beautifully done scripts and ornaments. Each stone was a blank for a particular bank note. They used to be inked and pulled in the traditional art printmaker style for years! I was young and stupid and did not have a camera (or a huge truck to carry the hundred pound stones) or I would have asked to keep some of them. Someone must have labored hours by hand crafting each letter. They sure looked better than todays, "Grab some clip-art and throw some Arial at it" kind of stuff. :-(

ChrisL

Not nearly as lovely, but number two in the Fontshop charts, there's a call for them.

http://www.fontshop.com/?fuseaction=catalog.fontpackage&searchby=manufac...

I was always awestruck by the work required to create the surface of one of those lithography stones, no machine could work to that precision, let alone some of the work on them.

Tim

Check out
http://www.letterror.com/catalog/fed/index.html

for Erik van Blokland’s modern version, Federal.