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closest PMS match for a CMYK color

thierry blancpain

i know that this isnt really the place to ask, but i am desperate. i only have PMS guides without CMYK values.

i need a PMS (coated) match for a CMYK-color.
its 100C,30M,10Y,10K.

thanks alot for your help!

American or European CMYK?

damn, right. euroscale, so european CMYK.

Closest is 307EC
C 100
M 12
Y 0
K 27

7469 C
7470 C

Or,
Pantone Process Blue EC

C100
M 8
Y 0
K 5

7469 C
7470 C

i only have an very old guide here at home, but that one doesnt contain any colors with 7 as starting number.

307 and process blue both fit pretty well, whats the CMYK-code of 3005C and 3015C?

thanks all for your help!

3005 C
C 100
M 37
Y 0
K 0

and ...

7469 C
C 100
M 11
Y 0
K 53

7470 C
C 90
M 0
Y 9
K 57

Hi Thierry,

I take it that you are specifying from a cmyk breakdown to a solid (screenprinter, for instance) colour. You will not get a very accurate pms colour by this route (note to designers, specify PMS colours that are fairly similar in cmyk breakdown, this also means that you have to invest in a cmyk book).

For future reference, get a proof of the 4-colour solid for matching in future (just tell the printer to match the colour - you know about type - you can’t know about everything).

Next time you print some stationery for this client, print yourself an inch square of the colour for matching. The reason is that Pantone® colours can actually be reverse matched closer by eye than by formula.

Having said that, have a look at pms 7468. Not a bus ride out, and I’ve been cheating colours all my life. Maybe even consider changing the corporate colour to 7468 (a rather sophisticated “French Blue”) to obviate future chit-chat.

oops,
3015 C
C 100
M 32
Y 0
K 28

chris, yes, i know this is a bad way and the wrong way to do it. in fact im not that unfamiliar with prepress-stuff, but this client gives me a ride to hell and back at the moment.. i already delivered the job to the printer, but now he comes back to me saying that the client actually asked for a two-color-job and not a 4C-job.. so i have to change all the colors of the illustrations to some pantone-color to make it fit. the client will pay my hours for that, so i dont really care anymore.

by the way, its not a corporate design but just a brochure. thanks all for your help, i’ll have a talk with the client now and then see what i can do.

7468 C
C 91
M 0
Y 0
K 45

I have last year’s Pantone solid to process coated Euro guide if you want me to gauge the similarity of the spot & process of any of these options.

Thierry - is this printer optimised for 2 or 4 colour print. It wouldn’t be the first time that a printer altered the job to suit his equipment. If it is a 4 colour job (only you know) it has to be a four colour printer. This is not a general rule but printers have been known to be, in exceptional circumstances, barefaced bloody liars, on occasion.

no, they have printed both 1c pantone and 4c cmyk jobs for this client before. so i guess this 1c pantone and K-job will work, too.

thanks all of you again for your great help!

Then pms7468 should fit the bill. Clean as a whistle - consider making it the corporate colour.

Also visit the printer and ask to see their presses. There is nothing like meeting face-to-face, and letting them know, that you know.

http://colorblender.com/ is a good place to start with selecting pantone colors. you have to convert your cmyk to rgb first and you definitely need to check pms chips. you also might be able to get your printer to match the process color exactly instead of using an existing pantone.

Hi,
I am trying ot convert CMYK 45,0,11,70 to a PMS color can you please help me??

I thought Euroscale was abandoned æons ago!
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