Which is it: tapisserie or tanisserie? I like the shapes of the individual letters, but the mixture of upper and lower case feels odd.

eron

eron,

thanks... tapisserie.(french for needlework). Referring to the cap T at the beginning. I'm trying to create something eclectic with blackletter/old english forms without strait blackletter in one style.

The T bothers me a bit. I like the s's, but they look too narrow. So the p is giving you trouble too.. hmmm...

Suggestions welcome...

thanks

Yeah, I like the s's too. Maybe extend the descender on the p a little bit more...but actually the more I look at the p, the less it looks like an n. I agree about the T. Maybe adding a vertical line to the T, like capitals in some blackletter fonts. Or you could change the form of the a to the single-story type.

Just make that T a little higher (without altering the width of the stems!), so that its cross bar is about the thickness of the stems above the x-height. Also, make that cross bar go over the lc a.

If you use blacletter, you should use long-s's.

"Tapisserie" is French, not for needlework (embroidery), but for "tapistry"/"tapistries".

Ludwig,

Well, internet translation bites back. Oh well. I thought it sounded an awful lot like tapestry

I hadn't thought of the long s, but my only concern would be lay-men *us audience* ; it's hypothetical usage is a knitting/sewing type magazine. It might read Tapifferie. And I'll give your other suggestion a shot.

Thanks!

The i's are bothering me, they have a strange starting point* (and seem a bit too tall), the pen would start more in the position of the p and r and are a touch too narrow. The ie needs kerning tighter and I would look at some kind of decorative ending or flourish to the second e. The Ta ligature is rather attractive, but I think you need to do some work to the outside/bottom stroke so the join is smooth, there seems to be a flat point between 5 and 6 o’clock.
*anti-chirographic
Tim

It looks pretty cool, but would it really say "needlepoint" to the intended audience (ignoring for the moment the translation problem)? I'm no needlepoint expert, but I'm not sure that it would. It feels kind of liturgical to me.

I really like the e's

Tim:

The stems of the p and r thin you mean? Any other form of i you might suggest, because i started with a stereotypical blackletter lc i, but it didnt really fit. I'll look into the optical height of the i.

Mark:

I was going for a more 'fringe' audience, ala late 20's to 40's, designerish types who like to be crafty on the side. (that's why I didn't do something more literal)

This is why i don't like hypothetical work, becuase I can change my audience. ( anyway, this area of mag masthead design is hidiously drab, why not spice it up )

Is it the just the blackletter making it feel liturgical? Any ideas otherwise? Maybe a way to keep it's character while making it less liturgical?

Ken:

me too

I have an interview at my dream job tomorrow. Wish me luck. Pray. Rub some sticks together. Anything you like.

Sorry I was ambiguous there, I meant the i's were a touch thin, as an experiment you could try reflecting the i, which would be achievable with a pen.

GOOD LUCK

Tim

D'oh. Gotcha. thanks.

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