ITC Firenze

(edit-a-bit): But the ampersand is so slightly different than the specimen I have (ITC Typeface Collection, 1980 -- the BIG BLACK BOOK).

(edit-a-bit-more): I have not found a digitized version, though at one point pre-digital I believe there was a look-alike named Florence (the city which is known as "Firenze" to Italians).

i can't find it in the itc web...

oops! you just added that last edit! :)

i see, so it doesn't seem to be available...

Thanks for your fast id

Sorry, I don't have a great digital camera.

Looking at your sample of "solar arkestra" it looks like some of the characters were condensed a bit... the uppercase E for example. Which might account for why the original ampersand is narrower and almost closed like your sample.

hey there!

the top font i used was indeed Firenze. good eye on that.

The ampersand was redrawn from a printed sample that i have of pistilli roman.

feel free to get in touch with me for any other questions!

Thanks, Justin... nice work.
I've missed a few IDs lately so I gotta get my batting average up again :-)

Hey Justin, good to see you here.

I emailed Mr. Kay about this very thing for my post on Threadless fonts. There was a version of Firenze offered by Image Club but it has since gone "out of print", as it were. Ask Monotype about that, I guess. In the meantime, I offered some alternatives in my Typographica post.

Hi Justin, where did you get your digitised version of Firenze?

Thanks!

Norbert, thank you for the specimen pic!

Do none of the alternates I listed suit your fancy, dust?

i've just checked that typographi post, thanks for the link, there are some good alternatives there..

again, you just got me typing! :)

yes there are some suitable alternatives...
anyway having firenze would be nice.

whats the name of the other font?

Serif Gothic Black by the look of it.

Jumpin' on the 70's bandwagon.

Nick Cooke

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