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Typefaces with a system?

thierry blancpain0 votes

hello all

i hope im not starting too many threads, its just that im looking for so many different typefaces at once :)

im planning to do a photographic book about systems, a research about visual systems and different degrees of chaos coming into organized, clean structures.

my initial thought was simple by norm, but it was used SO often for cultural projects in switzerland that i'd like to find something else. the texts will be short, mainly captions for the photos.

any ideas? thanks!

It's actually great to hear that a font from a foundry that buys virtually no advertising can do so well simply by word of mouth and leading by example.

Hopefully these are less common in your realm:

FF Magda Clean
FF Isonorm
FF Alega
DIN 17

Sophisto or Stalemate might do the trick?

See for yourself; http://www.macrhino.com

Univers

ChrisL

thanks alot already for the suggestions. i should've written more about what im looking for.

univers was built systematicaly as a family, but not the glyphs itself - and thats what im looking for. simple consists of a few curve-segments that were used throughout the font, and its monospaced which adds to the "systematic" feeling.

it doesnt have to have round terminals, it can have serifs or not, i really havent made up my mind. but the glyphs itself should be constructed with a system.

(oh, and please do not suggest the normal din.. :))

Maybe you like Generation.

The system has two axes:
- light to bold (5 steps)
- angular to round (5 steps)

The starting point for the design was the angular font, so you have a kind of modular design which transforms slowly into a still constucted but smooth lettershape.

The Presentation brochure won a price for typographic excellence: it is based on the principle of crossbreeding applied on typedesign.

Kesh,

Tell me if this one (that I am working on now) qualifies under your "System" definition.

http://typophile.com/node/18796

ChrisL

'PlayR' may be one of those 'systems'. :)

Dav

"a few curve-segments that were used throughout the font"

There are a thousand of these, and most of them aren't any good. I guess that's the challenge, to find a modular face that won't hurt your book due to its amateur or unreadable nature.

PlayR is one of the better modular fonts I've seen.

What about something like Mechanical or Propane?

Mechanical is very good! Thanks for the link Stephen!

ChrisL

How about CEO, Deck, Editor or Politics from Optimo
Tim

"There are a thousand of these, and most of them aren’t any good."

Amen.

All typefaces ARE systems, and they appear to be designed systematically, and some are done that way, but typefaces that look overtly systematic and rational are usually not very functional. Consider choosing a high-quality text typeface with some systematic "feel" to it, like ITC Tyfa, or Warnock, or Melior, or Proforma, rather than one derived literally from modules. The type in a publication doesn't have to refer so literally to the subject; it can simply evoke or sympathize with it.

Word.

IF you want an aggresive orf rough feeling -

http://www.veer.com/products/typedetail.aspx?image=TPT0000034

I'd say United from House was made pretty systematically...

thank you all for your suggestions! im still only collecting ideas for the book, it will probably take another 3-6 months until im finished.

crossgrove: sure. but functionality isnt always the most important question, especially if you are making maybe 20 copies or so for friends and portfolio. its way too early to decide on a typeface anyway - i started this thread to get some fresh ideas i didnt think of. thinking about the typeface helps me getting more ideas for the photographic part.
the other way would be to make my own typeface, which im also making sketches for at the moment. opentype would be lovely for adding a chaotic part to the typeface.

"3-6 months until im finished."

Better get started! ;D

The small audience of your friends represents a slice of the general public. Their feedback will be useful to you, especially if they are not designers. Any employer who interviews you will be able to comment on the project as well. Good luck!

"The type in a publication doesn’t have to refer so literally to the subject; it can simply evoke or sympathize with it."

I agree with Carl. Between his choices I would say Proforma is a totally "rational" masterpiece. If you still want to adhere to a grid concept more than a more functional design, Sys by Fabrizio Schiavi would be excellent, but it's too light. So I'd say Stephan's and Rodrigo Cavazos' Sophisto: fantastic and one of their best works.

BTW Carl, I just realized I share with you a fascination for certain letterforms (see Reliq). In your "about me" page I see an image saying "Photocopied tests": could you tell me if you took inspiration from a specific source and if they led to a final design?

Ah Carl, your link to terrestrial design in your typophile page does not work for me. Maybe it's to be written with the http?
http://www.terrestrialdesign.com/

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