Typophile

Don't forget Johnston

londontype

I just saw Tankard’s Bliss in a newspaper ad and it reminded me again how important Edward Johnston’s Railway type (1916) has been to the sans world. It’s easy to forget that Gill Sans got 95% of its genetic material from Johnston, and that Johnston preceded Futura by 12 years. I can’t think of any sans of note that predated it except Akzidenz Grotesk. Even though Johnston was not available as a commercial face for more than 80 years (ITC Johnston, 1999) its influence was immediate and worldwide – since, then and now, many of the world’s educated people seem to pass through London. Johnston’s influence can even be seen in Clearview, coming soon to a road sign near you if you live in N. America. P22’s London Underground is faithful to Johnston’s original and has some cool extras, but also has a very restrictive license.

what’s the restrictive part about the p22 license?

I wish I were a fly on the wall of the first three meetings that were held for the what became the Johnston typeface. Eric Gill was there for those three meetings. Was it Meynell that was also there? I really haven’t read my notes for 6 years.

I’d also be curious which part of the EULA seems restrictive to you.

This thread from Dove Isaacs has been a “sticky” over on the Adobe Typography board for some time.

Richard

P22’s EULA is far less restrictive than Tankard’s or ITC’s.

ITC’s actual EULA is difficult to discover: the only way I’ve found is to initiate a purchase, and scroll through the display in a ridiculously small frame.

It restricts “embedding” of the font to “a static graphic image (for example, a “gif”) or an embedded electronic document...You may not embed Font Software in a Commercial Product without a separate written license from MTI, and you may not embed Font Software in an electronic document or data file for any reason other than your own Personal or Internal Business Use.”

Modification isn’t allowed.

“The basic P22 license is intended to accommodate personal use as in the course of everyday correspondence and document writing, or in the design of self-promotion pieces like business cards, newsletters and brochures. Other uses designated as “professional” or “commercial” may require additional licensing. Professional use is work performed by, not limited to, freelance designers, small design firms and corporate advertising firms that incorporate P22 fonts within a design for a client or self-promotion.”

I take this to limit most commercial uses of the font. No such limits appear on the ITC agreement - at least that’s the way I took it. Would you take the above

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