Tiffany and Mårten previously made comments on my font. Below are my responses to their comments:

Tiffany:

I have attached a PDF with some variations on the lowercase t. Which reads best to you?

I like your suggestion about keeping the font for personal use. It has actually been used once already in the new logo I created for the design firm I work for. I'll post a link when we unveil the new logo.

Mårten:

Originally my intention was to create a font with only squares and wedges. The challenge came when I came to the 3, 8 and &. I applied the hybrid shape to the w and W. I think that helps lighten them up some. I've attached a PDF - let me know what you think.

The lc_t in the file ty_psychology_02.pdf reads correct.

- What if you remove the gap in your ampersand? Does it need that space?
- What if the bottom facet on the question mark was moved to the right side instead?
- What if the bottom facet on the exclamation mark was also curved like the question mark?
- What if the bottom right facet on the lc_z was flopped?

Still fun.

(Please refer to ty_psychology_03.pdf)

Tiffany:

I removed the gap in the ampersand. In theory I would like for the shapes to be closer together, but I'm not sure that it reads better this way. Seeing both of them, do you think it needs a space?

Take a look at the question mark. Is this what you meant? I think it falls apart at this point.

I changed the bottom facet on the exclamation mark. I like it better. Strangely, it kind of looks like lipstick.

What do you think about the z? It's kind of interesting like this. Not sure it is as clear of a z.

Thanks for all of your comments.

Check out Psychology in use: http://www.newmedio.com/

It works fine with the hybrid shape. Interesting how characters based on such a small grid can look almost ornamented or 'flowery'.

Hey Everyone,

Below are two lists. The first is a list of the changes I've made since ty_psychology_01.pdf and the second is a list of concerns that I still have with ty_psychology_04.pdf Please give your thoughts on my concerns.

Changes Made:

- flipped lowercase t across verticle axis
- flipped lowercase t's bottom right wedge across verticle axis
- added hybrid shape to W
- added hybrid shape to w
- narrowed the gap in &
- made the bottom facet of exlamation mark rounded

Remaining Concerns:

- Is the G too bulky?
- Does the K look top heavy?
- Is the T too wide?
- Is the W still too heavy?
- Does the X look top heavy?
- Should I add additional characters to the set? If so, which ones?

Ty,

All changes and correction to now are improvements. I think.

- z - crazy character either way. I prefer the latest version, but could see instances where the other might work better.

- ! - Love it.

- X - Is it upside down?

- G - Not bulky.

- K - Might be upside down too.

Ligatures? Crazy if it worked.

I've added a file entitled "ty_psychology_05.pdf" I have added an extra row at the bottom of the file with ideas for changes:

• lowercase l - It would look the same as the uppercase I (eye) and number 1, but I thought it helped the flow and perhaps will make future ligatures easier

• uppercase K - It becomes top heavy instead of bottom heavy. I think it's an improvement

• three capital Xs - I'm leaning to the last of the three, as unusual as it looks

• fi ligature - I decided to attempt a ligature. I'm not sure what others would work

• star shape - Simply a decorative element that I thought looked interesting

Thoughts?

can't find the file...

You should be able to see the file in the first post now.

I hadn't noticed the -l- being the same I guess that is the fun of these. I'm sure once you start making words you'll notice others things.

- X - 4th glyph from the left, bottom row is working.
- fi - crazy!
- star - nice touch

The fun of this will be, like I just said, when you do go to use it. You'll be able to keep it modular and move bits around to work better within word shapes.

ty_psychology_06.pdf

I've added the K, X, fi & star to the set.

I still think the M and W may be too heavy. So, on the bottom row I have added an alternate M and an alternate W for you to check out.

What do you think?

This is a funny design :) I like the idea, and it's very well done. I haven't looked at it before, so I can tell what doesn't work for me on first glimpse:

- H (can't tell why, but I didn't recognise it)
- i: no dot? What about mirroring the upper part upwards (so there is a quarter circle with the round part on the lower left side)?
- j: like i?
- z: what if the upper left block was a square?

I think things like & and fi-lig work if they stand alone (i like the idea to do such things), but I don't believe that they will within words. And i fear that they would disturb the recognizability of the other letters, as there are "unknown" elements between them, making the viewer insecure about the rest.

I like the alternative W better, but I would stick with the old M.

The hybrid element is an excellent idea. And I specially like the "flaming" characters like E, F or N.

Sebilar: Thanks for your comments. I have to say that they got me thinking quite a bit. I hate to say, I didn't take any of your advice, but that's not to say your advice wasn't helpful and thought provoking.

I ended up changing the M, W and w. Thoughts?

Nice changes.

M - looks odd. What if the middle bottom module was square?
W - Same comments, but maybe show a few variations. What if the bottom left was rounded too? Hmm. Maybe. And the middle bottom square? What a wacky character.

No problem, I just told what I see and said what might could work (I don't know if it would). But it's you being the designer, and you know best about the system the design follows.

I thought we should take a look at some of these characters in context.

Check out testing_01.pdf and see different options for the M, W and w.

Can't we just you all of them? ;^)

- w - top version works best, but the letters that don't rely upon a mutated shape are preferable, right?

- W - second from top.

- M - Second from top. BUT, I like the top shape more. HOWEVER, because the shape is so heavy it doesn't balance with the lowercase.

Attached is ty_psychology_08.pdf

I have updated the w, W and M.

Comments welcome.

Currently this design exists as vector shapes in Adobe Illustrator. What are the steps I need to take to build an OpenType font from these characters?

What font building software would you recommend I build out this font on? I'm working on Mac OS X. Thanks.

If you are only using it as lettering, why make a font?

Currently it takes forever to set the type in Illustrator, so it would be nice to have a more efficient way to type it out. Also, I would like to go through the process of finishing out a font. I plan to create other fonts in the future, so I see this as an opportunity to cut my teeth and learn the software and process.