Typophile

Poll on helvetica

Zara Evens

Question for a project:

who is using helvetica in their business identity?
(its use in logos primarily)-

thanks!

Nice cat. I don't... do you have more pictures of your cat?

Helveti-cat

helveti-cat! that is awesome.

as requested....

however i must tell you these aren't my cats. I just have a weird obsession with cats that wear things.

I have 2 kittens that I nicknamed Helvetica and Garamond.
I'm such a geek.

naming animals after type is not geeky!



now children...maybe

There's at least one example of a type designer naming his daughter after a typeface, but I can't remember who it was. Matthew Carter mentioned it at ATypI 1994 in San Francisco, and joked that we might soon be celebrating the birth of Helvetica Brody. This was much funnier in 1994.

Nice Kittens I have a cat named Lucifer, maybe I should design a type named Lucifer too. Lucifer doesn

>Helv

(Courier-iosity killed the cat)

david, you are so clever!

do you have more?

say something. anything. and i'll try.

Here's a spread from the Lars Müller book.

book

Robert most of those examples either don't exist anymore or have been redesigned "Eagle" geeeseee!

Zara did you catch the article about the Tiger some crazy guy kept in an apartment complex in the Bronx? All 425lbs of him, a cute kitty named Ming. Dan

Hey! Isn't that "Canvas" (Belgian TV) logo normally set in univers? I'm sure that the book is right, but I swear that's in Univers on TV.
Yves, help me out on this one!!!

Or is it another case of stupid flemish designers that still don't know the difference between Univers, Arial & Helvetica? Last time I saw it: the" Icons of Flemish Design" exhibition. Invitation was Univers, and the catalogue in Helvetica. Talkin' about being consequent...

it's a sad sad world

Archie Provan, retired RIT professor, named his daughter something unlikely and apparently typeface-inspired. I can't remember what it was now, but it seems to me it was something improbable like "Lutetia."

A couple I know who are colleagues of mine at Adobe named their two cats Sans and Serif.

T

Ole Kvern (sometimes of Adobe) once joked that if he had triplets they'd be named Manuel, Otto and Per.

...named his daughter...." -

maybe - (ITC) Korinna. or Stubserif 711 (BS). or Kordova (Wang) ?

The Microsoft logo is set in Helvetica isn't it? It's quite ironic if it is.

MS logo is Franklin Gothic.

My two oldest kids, Cooper and Garamond, say they don't mind being named after typefaces, but my wife thinks the two youngest might object when they start school and realise they are the only kids called Antique Central Expanded and Univers 47 Condensed Light.

Is it really Franklin Gothic? I'd heard several times it was Helvetica but I was never sure.

>>did you catch the article about the Tiger some crazy guy kept in an apartment complex in the Bronx? All 425lbs of him, a cute kitty named Ming. Dan

no dan, sorry I hadn't heard of that. Was he wearing a sweater, the tiger?

>>say something. anything. and i'll try.

david, try "tiger"

I had a cat I named "lowercase," and she was. We surmised her dad was All Caps and her mom Decorative Ornament.

Hey.

Yes, it's really Franklin Gothic.

T

Zara I have an older post called a typical day in harlem that explains that story. Its unbelieable. Look for it, its about a week old. Dan

Ed Benguiat told a student that the way you can identify Franklin Gothic is to look at the lowercase c. It looks like a keyhole turned sideways, and since Ben Franklin used a key in his electrical experiments it has to be Franklin Gothic.

I love it.

I think there was a discussion here a while back about what
typeface was used for the Microsoft logo.

Obviously, they use ITC Franklin Gothic extensively in the
corporate identity, but if you look closely at the logo, you
will see that it is not Franklin Gothic (ITC or otherwise). All
the obvious Franklin Gothic details (including Benguiat's
"keyhole") are absent. In fact, it looks as much like
Helvetica as Franklin Gothic, but not exactly like either.

It seems likely that it started out as one of those two, but
was redrawn and modified.

> Hey! Isn't that "Canvas" (Belgian TV) logo normally
set in Univers? I'm sure that the book is right, but I
swear that's in Univers on TV.
Yves, help me out on this one!!!


It was Univers originally, but they might have changed
it (it sure is Helvetica on their website now), Lettertyp.
I'll have to watch some telly to be able to confirm.

fru-tiger

good one, zara

thanx Yves! I was a bit confused

I hope it's still is Univers
:-(

My teacher always told me that Helvetica was the worst thing ever to cross the Alps.

They don't seem to see the the difference, do they?

Tibor Kalman named his daughter Bodoni, I think. Poor girl.

hhp

Bodoni is her middle name. Lulu Bodoni Kalman. Yikes!

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