Typophile

Can anyone help identify these two sans-serif fonts from my University's shop logo?

David Le

The top looks like it could be Nimbus Sans, but I feel like it is a little wider, unless it is stretched.

The bottom looks almost identical to Helvetica Neue UltraLight but it appears to be a different font-weight...too thin to be Light and too thick to be Ultralight? :s Maybe it's stroked?

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Helvetica Neue
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To me and as all you said, that all looks like Helvetica Neue, Black and Thin.

Thank you...I feel really dumb now lol

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